Amazon’s Ring to partner with Flock, a network of AI cameras used by ICE, feds, and police

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[–] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

Hot take : almost no one actually needs security cameras in their home.

For the very few who do, visible fake cameras do 95% of the job of real cameras with none of the drawbacks.

EDIT : I'll go even further and say an official looking sticker / plaque that says something like "this house has cameras" does at least 50% of the work already.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The only drawbacks to having actual security cameras is when you trust your data to a 3rd party known to use your data for evil.

    If you record things locally, there's really zero drawbacks.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Hypothetically the police could come with a warrant and force you to hand over the footage you recorded. It's a higher barrier than if footage is being uploaded to the cloud, but it can still happen.

    And even if the cameras are not uploading their footage to the cloud, it still wouldn't sit well with me if every other house has a camera pointed at the public street

    Where I live it is technically illegal to record the public street with an automated camera, but it's not really being enforced. So there is Ring cameras everywhere.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    That's annoying (or at least, takes some work) to set up, and more expensive.

    Out of order cameras are basically (sometimes literally) free, need no wiring work, and don't "accidentally" record any embarrassing / private moments you then have to delete !

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    But they let me see who is at the door without coming up from the basement.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    How would an intruder ever know the difference ? Just set up a defective camera that you can get for a fraction of the price of a working one.

    There is absolutely no way to tell whether the camera actually works or not. It does the same "scarecrow" job a real one would, but doesn't need any of the infrastructure or upkeep.

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