Mike Huckabee suggested any future Palestinian state should be carved out of ‘a Muslim country’

Mike Huckabee, the US ambassador to Israel, has said that the US is no longer pursuing the goal of an independent Palestinian state, marking what analysts describe as the most explicit abandonment yet of a cornerstone of US Middle East diplomacy.

Asked during an interview with Bloomberg News if a Palestinian state remains a goal of US policy, he replied: “I don’t think so.”

The former Arkansas governor chosen by Donald Trump as his envoy to Israel went further by suggesting that any future Palestinian entity could be carved out of “a Muslim country” rather than requiring Israel to cede territory.

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[–] 158 points 1 year ago (159 children)

Thank God we saved Palestine from Biden, right protest voters?
Right?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Think a bit before talking. If i give an arm to someone knowing exactly that he will kill domeone then i am complicit with thr crime of murder. Same with biden and trump

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Again iran do not want to attack the usa. The usa is the one who want to . The united state been the biggest agressor and bully at least for 50 years.

    Your country has no ligitimate defence

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (10 children)

    Ok sorry for misreading you.

    Why biden should protect a state occupying palestinian for 57 years? Why do you agree with biden being complicit?

    Biden support israel for the usa imperialism and ideology

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

    Palestinians has nothing to do the holocaust. Actually 13k Palestinians volunteered to fight nazi Germany. Maybe the united state should has offer some land to zionists to create it's state .

    No US President is going to turn their back on that. Biden did not do anything different than every other president in the past 70 years.

    I don't give a damn, every single president who defended israeli occupation is a war criminal and should be held accountable

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The world decided to give Jewish people a homeland and they picked (then) Palestine

    Most of the world didn't decide this and more importanly the local population refused

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    So you agree that the support for Israel since the beginning was wrong right?

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  • [–] 55 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Great, now you got the genocide still going AND a fascist takeover of your country, with even less possibility to change anything and plenty of distractions to the Palestinians cause because your country is falling apart around you.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I generally agree with your premise up until the point where you argue for accelerating the rise of fascism.

    NOTHING has been gained by this, NOTHING changed for the better, it only got harder to bring about change. The people who could've mobilized and fought for those causes are now busy trying to stop the gestapo from deporting their neighbors.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    He correctly understood the context in which you wrote it, which was defending fascist-accelerationist non-voters and third-party voters.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    The majority of white women voted for Trump in 2016, 2020, and 2024.

    "White women are still voting for the Republican candidate

    Although women as a whole have historically voted for Democrats, white women have not. Instead, over the last 72 years, a plurality of white women have voted for the Democratic candidate only twice, in 1964 and 1996."

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/06/election-trump-harris-women-voters

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    The protest voters amounted to some ~800k last time I did my research (check my profile for a post that goes over this).

    RFK forgot to pull out of the general election, and he amassed some ~1 million votes.

    Literally the Trump admin's own hubris cancelled out the Uncommitted Movement's efforts.

    But sure: let's ignore Biden's deep hatred and racism for Palestinians while ignoring that emocrats lost more voters than what new voters became eligible between 2020 & 2024.

    Let's also ignore Biden's awful, self-serving aim to run against Trump in 2024, when previously he had said he was a one-term candidate. And this old fuck couldn't back out of the race until he was cumpstered and dumpstered on the national stage, leaving Kamala only months to prepare a campaign. Let's not forget that there were people on voting day that didn't even know Kamala was running (they assumed Biden).

    Let's also ignore Kamala's decent into fascism-lite, saying things like "the strongest military in the entire world" at the DNC, following along with right wing framing on immigration, and inviting Liz fucking Cheney on the campaign trail. This is also ignoring Kamala's horrendously tone deaf policies aimed towards business and home owners, when most people don't own businesses and don't own.

    There is a generational divide in the country on Gaza. Young people under, say, 40 oppose everything this country has aided and abetted regarding Gaza. Older than 40, people don't give a shit.

    So, have you just dated yourself? Are you too much of a bitch and coward to stick up for state mandated murder abroad? Or are you one of those soy libs that ignores all of America's war crimes yet points out everything wrong with China?

    American foreign policy is uniparty. If you don't protest that, you're complicit.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    You see how that's worse right? Biden gave unconditional support and assistance to someone actively working against him and ignoring him.

    Or was he just too senial to know he was getting taken advantage of while being president and actively campaigning?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    And yet still you pedanticly defend Biden for his atrocious actions and manner he handled the situation.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    the old man was why it was able to continue

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    the truth is, there is no “lesser evil.” And as we argue over this and obsess over the differences between administrations that share the same genocidal goals but employ different tactics, the pile of Palestinian and Lebanese bodies only grows

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (53 children)

    Oh boy you rustled some jimmies. Idk that I've seen a single comment where every response was down voted for being shitty takes.

    I'm sure all of those third party and non voters are jerking off all over themselves for saving Palestine and ending the genocide through Donald Trump.

    Hey, at least they've got their pedestals to look down on us from.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (8 children)

    I doubt that anyone ever claimed Trump would end the genocide on Palestinians from outside a troll farm in St. Petersburg.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Ok, so assume all things equal, everything happens the same in Gaza... Trump is still significantly worse in every other facet. So yea, all third party voters and non voters are fucking moronic Trump supporters. A bunch of ignorant fuckwits that think that they made a difference by standing up against the establishment. Congrats, we got Trump.

    There's only so many ways to say that there were two outcomes last November, and everyone knew that. If y'all can't wrap your head around that reality 6 months later, then that says everything about your ability to reason.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Why I don't get is why the democrats ran a chicken race with democracy for a widely despised policy when they knew the stakes. We can call the electorate morons all day and even have point, but they are supposed to be smart.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The why doesn't strike me as hard. A number of domestic voting blocks in critical swing states will mobilize hard against any perceived flagging of support of Israel. It will play poorly in the press broadly, and opponents will successfully fundraise on the issue.

    The worst part is the party is being entirely realistic. Jeremy Corbyn showed what happens when a party leadership is not sufficiently supportive of Israel. Any left of center leader will be tagged as radical, but the accusations of harboring antisemitic elements lost labour what should have been a landslide victory.

    Continuing to write Israel a blank check may be widely despised, but the left might hold their nose and vote blue anyway. The left is famously never satisfied, so what else is new?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I'm specifically arguing with/against non voters, 3rd party voters, and Trump voters. I also pinched my nose and voted for Harris in November. I'm not going to argue for the democratic party, because it's the second worst major party in the US, and they suck. Unfortunately, we are a FPtP nation, so in the general we get two options and get to pick who's less bad. Lot's of people that voted for Harris did so with that in mind.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (18 children)

    You got worse than what you were protesting. Good job. Huge success!

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    it’s very expected that some people can be so stupid

    But I guess you are.

    It's obvious that you're calling me stupid and an idiot. You assign behaviors that you think apply to me and then say that those behaviors make one a useful idiot. I know you're just trying to skirt rule 5, but this has got to be one of the most pathetic attempts I've seen.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    She would have been better for the world as a whole than Trump. If you truely think that things would have played out exactly the same in Gaza with Harris as POTUS, then it still comes down to two candidates last November, and every person knew that one of them would win. So a vote for Trump, a non vote, or a third party vote directly benefited Trump.

    "Oh but I voted against genocide", fuck no you didn't. You voted in a manner that directly put Trump in charge, which was the worst possible outcome.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    To be clear, I voted for Harris, and I implored everyone I know to vote for Harris, for exactly the reasons you mentioned. I will always vote for the farthest-left candidate in the general, full-stop. I'm not arguing that both sides are the same, or that Harris wouldn't have been a better choice for 100 reasons outside of the genocide issue. I'm arguing that Harris gave no indication that she would defend Palestine or even recognize the genocide at all. She might well have done those things, but she didn't campaign on that, so I don't know why anyone is defending her on the issue. Establishment Dems can't seem to get it through their heads that progressive policies are popular, so we keep getting general elections between an absolute monster and a neolib Dem saying, "Vote for me or you'll get the monster!" That might be the reality, but it's not a platform.

    I live in a blue state, and I had people around me arguing that whether they voted third-party or didn't vote at all, they would be able to sleep at night knowing that A. they didn't vote for genocide and B. the state would go blue anyway. I don't agree with that position at all. I want third parties to be represented in the US, but that starts at the local level and in the primaries. By the general election it's too late and we realistically have two options. I also believe that shutting down any criticism of the Dem candidate (e.g. a now-banned user told me to kill myself) is a good way to alienate people and discourage them from engaging with the process at all. The right has banned nuance from their discourse, and I refuse to allow the same thing to happen around me.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I agree with you on everything you wrote.

    I'm not trying to say that Harris would have been good for Palestine, or even a good POTUS. I'm saying she was the less bad option overall in the election. I don't know that anything would be different with Israel had she won, but I think there was a better chance that she would have done something good over Trump doing something good. That could still be a negligible chance, but it was the better of two chances.

    Like you said, local elections and primaries (when they're held, but that's separate from this overall conversation) are when to vote for different parties and more fringe candidates. One of two people is already the winner in the election by the time November rolls around, so it comes down to least bad.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It could be argued that trump is actually better for the world (but not for the US) since he's ruining the US's soft power by tearing up alliances and expressing blatant corruption, making the US look incompetent and completely untrustworthy. Now other countries are finding alternatives, making the US not as central as it used to be. He is perhaps the most effective tool in helping the US empire fall.

    You could also argue that this is accelerationism, but to be fair, democrats take advantage of accelerationism all the time (e.g. "republicans have repealed reproductive rights, donate even more money to us so we can fight it" while letting things get worse and worse, barely putting up a fight to make long-lasting changes and indeed letting things get this bad so they can position themselves as the only "solution").

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Oh boy you rustled some jimmies.

    That might be an understatement lol.
    I'm still getting comments, threats, and suggestions to commit suicide on this post, and other comments and posts I've made going back at least a year.

    They're so mad they're been browsing my comment history to find more things to get pissed off about lol.
    I love pissing off fascists and all the attention let's me know I'm on the right track.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    I think for everyone who can not, for one reason or another, go out in the streets and shout "what the fuck are we doing?", the next best, most morally correct thing to do is to piss fascists off and waste their time.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Same. I've had cancer wished on me, suicide, and a few other things. Like you said, it's solidly let me know the kind of people that I'm criticizing.

    Someone lost a friend in Lebanon, and that's sad. I'm sure if they were still here, they'd be stoked that their friend effectively supported Donald Trump to help out though.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Wow interesting you sure know a lot about history. Especially all the stuff which somehow makes it not Biden his fault that Israel was committing a full scale genocide which started during his term according to even Wikipedia.

    Remind me who was advocating for Israel back in the 90s

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