Honestly I don't fuck with either of these kinks. I get that responsible people can have these kinks and compartmentalize it. But the few women I've come into contact with that had these kinks, had several other red flags and this was just what finally turned me away. One girl asked me to choke her till she bruised, and I immediately went limp. My only thought was "she's trying to go to the cops with evidence. Nope!" I bolted and we talked later, maybe it wasn't that, but we never went further than small talk after that.