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[+] 10 points 1 year ago (18 children)
  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    Newer versions of that pan use ceramics, not Teflon

    It seems to be slightly less non stick, and more sensitive to quick temperature changes over time (hurts adhesion of the ceramics), but otherwise it's pretty solid and very safe

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  • [+] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    No, they called it a non-stick non-toxic coating, they didn't originally claim ceramic.

    They claim the new surface is ceramic (and it looks plausible from seeing how damaged pans look in photos)

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Why not just use something else like carbon steel or cast iron. They are both cheap and easy enough to maintain. My carbon steel frying pan is just as non-stick as Teflon, and actually gets better the more I use it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I have cast iron pans too. When you have family members who'll make them rust it's easier to just not 🤷

    If pure ceramic had a strong enough surface I'd prefer that, or stainless steel if it could maintain the same degree of non-stick.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Not like it's good to eat it or anything, but just to help with the worries, teflon is absolutely safe to ingest, it's a very stable molecule that don't interact with absolutely anything, it goes in and out basically intact. Of course it doesn't mean you can EAT it, but ocasional accidental ingestion due "scraping the bottom" are pretty safe.

    When people say it's Toxic, they knowing or unknowingly are talking about the chemicals used to make it, mostly PFOA — perfluorooctanoic acid. These are nasty, and are present GLOBALLY, like everywhere, from the sea to the middle of deserts and even on the poles, that also includes our blood.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Totally, it's safe if you take care of the pan; however, if you ever get it above a certain temperature the coating will break down and that's when there's risk. Also as you said, how much forever chemicals are released into the environment during it's production, and might I also add that those bits that go in and out are also in the environment forever.

    I suspect no one wants to hear about cast iron pans anymore lol.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Every time someone's foaming at the mouth at how safe it is to eat Teflon, I can't help but to be reminder of the confidence of 1950's ad executives:

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    There's a nice video about it from Veritasium.

    Strictly speaking of the chemical side of things, teflon at it's normal temperature, is very inert and won't interact with anything inside your body, that's doesn't mean you can eat 1 kilogram of it and be fine.

    The point was, if you accidentally scrap the bottom of a pan and ingest a tiny bit of the coating with the food, that won't make any big harm as most alarmists suggest.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I've heard the argument several times, yeah.

    I still wouldn't eat teflon and have slowly changed to mostly stainless steel, which is superior in cooking if you know how to use it. Gonna get myself some cast iron as well but I'd like a larger kitchen to properly start kitting out. What I want in the end is silver cookware.

    The point is, your "facts" are probably more correct than science in the 50's, but the fact is those "facts" are still essentially company propaganda to make people not panic over having eaten off of neurotoxins for 50 years.

    Or like, are you so naive you don't understand companies like DuPont lying through their teeth?

    https://pure.eur.nl/en/publications/historical-pfas-pollution-as-a-state-facilitated-corporate-crime-/

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    My dude, I'm just saying something based on my biochemistry degree, as I stated it's harmless if you INGEST A TINY AMMOUNT ON ACCIDENT, you obviously shouldn't eat it as part of your diet, and if possible use a cast iron or stainless steel pan, even though is harder to clean.

    I'm not talking about politics our corporations, or as you label it my "facts", I'm talking about science and chemistry.

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