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Almost 100,000 young men flee Ukraine in two months (www.telegraph.co.uk)
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[–] 2 points 1 year ago (17 children)

Bloodlust lol.

The war can be over if Russia gets the fuck out. Ukraine will fight to the bitter end. Absolutely. They do not, categorically and historically, want to be under Russian rule. And that rings true for pretty much every ex-Soviet nation.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    No, there is no fantasy universe where Russia just turns around and stops when they are winning the war. Ukrainians do not want to be sacrificed for foreign profits, and are deserting in huge numbers (see the subject of this post). The far-right nationalist movements in ex-soviet states are temporary, in the long run there will be a return to socialism. There was no "Russian rule" in the USSR.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    I think you are in a fantasy world.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    In what way?

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Just from everything you’ve said

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    So you don't really have a point, just ad hominem.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Neither do you

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    I absolutely have given many points here and never once resorted to ad hominem.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    By all means clarify your points.

    Your position though is clearly biased against Ukraine, given the instance you’re positing form.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I'm biased in that I'm a communist, sure, but my methods of analysis focus on material reality, not marvel-esque ideas of Russia just turning around and walking away right as it's clear they are winning.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Not really winning as I’ve mentioned before. They’ve barely gained any ground this year.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    They are steadily gaining ground, and Ukraine can't stop Russia. Russia can go as slowly as they like to prevent casualties, they aren't doing a suicidal blitzkreig.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Ukraine can stop Russia. By continuing to stop them. One nation against the “mightiest” and largest nation on earth and in doing so proving that they (Russia) are in fact a paper dragon resting on their laurels and former glory.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Ukraine is losing, they aren't stopping Russia. Right now, Pokrovsk is encircled and about to fall to Russia. It is in Ukraine's best interests to concede and stop the bloodshed.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Ok so if they concede and then Russia continues…what then. Will you change your tune? Or just continue to parrot the propaganda?

    Russia is as interested in stopping at your imaginary line as Israel is.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    If Ukraine concedes, why would Russia continue? Why do you compare them with a genocidal settler-colony that needs to expand to continue their settler-colonial project?

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Why would Russia continue?

    Hmm why would Russia continue. Oof you got me there. I have no idea. Why would they continue?

    I mean given their peaceful history for the last 20 years of not attacking and expanding their borders, I can totally see why you’d think they would stop completely on the imaginary line.

    I mean they totally stopped after Moldova, Georgia and Crimea.

    This isn’t a marvel-esque situation where an invading force has spent 4 years gaining ground and checks notes suddenly stops.

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