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[–] 174 points 1 year ago (16 children)

This gives me flashbacks to the one time in my life I really wanted to answer “okay boomer”

My father in law was supporting the claim the climate change might exist, but it’s nothing we have to concern ourselves about because it’s going to take decades to do anything.

And I was like: you have grandkids, they will be there in decades! And: you just experienced the first drought of your country, how is that not climate change??

After half an hour going in rounds I gave up and bit my tongue to not torpedo our relationship. Two years later he admitted that maybe there was something about climate change nowadays…

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  • [–] 117 points 1 year ago

    Decades ago my stepmother did this in front of her 8 year old daughter... I was like, ok you'll be dead, and you don't need to care about me as your stepson, but what about her?

    Ughh... Now her and my dad are MAGA...

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Two years later he admitted that maybe there was something about climate change nowadays…

    At least they changed their mind (a little bit). I think this is a huge part of the problem: admitting an error and being supported for that admission is something that is frowned upon in certain groups. I think toxic masculinity plays one big factor here. Admitting errors is seen as "not masculine", especially within conservative groups.

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  • [+] -16 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    it's frown upon by every group.

    nice way to blame 'masculinity' though. as of women or something don't do that shit.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    I am not sure where your defensive reaction comes from, but please read something about toxic masculinity before being so vocal about your opinion. Toxic masculinity can be reinforced by all genders and all genders can be victims.

    And admitting your own errors is definitely not equally seen in different groups.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Life is too short to bother maintaining relationships with people like that. They can rot away in lonely isolation, like they deserve.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    dude torpedo the relationship, who gives a fuck. if they want to be ignorant fucks and ruin their relationship with their child, that's on them

    they won't change if there are no repercussions

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You advocate blowing up a parent-child relationship just for not getting the instant gratification of convincing them to change their political views in a single day?

    That’s decades of history prior and more in the future hopefully. Some things just take time.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Some people just take a while to absorb new information.

    My father would always seem like he was completely stuck in his ways and unyielding if you argued with him for one day. But if you came back the next day, he usually had a much better view and had accepted some of your statements.
    I actually enjoyed debating him once I learned this, and learned to drag out the debates over several days. I also understood a lot more by copying his method of learning.

    Not everything needs to be instant. Give people information, then give them time to think about it.

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