▲ 707 ▼ Trump announces that the USA has bombed Iranian nuclear sites. (lemmy.ml) submitted 1 year ago by geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml 324 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children) A peacefull world permalink fedilink source hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago Religion isn't the cause, the mode of production is. Economic factors are far more important when it comes to war, including this one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Luccajan@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (4 children) If there is no religion people will find something else to fight over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) Maybe, but religion had caused infinite more wars than all other reasons together in the whole history. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago No, economic factors matter far more. Religion is often used as an excuse, or plays some role, but the real drive is access to trade or resources or labor in the vast majority of cases. permalink fedilink source parent [–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago Yes, and it's almost entirely due to one religion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion permalink fedilink source parent [–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago In reality nobody is actually fighting for "religion". They're actually fighting for nationalism, capitalism, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion permalink fedilink source parent [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children) Yeah Donald Trump is a devout Christian that must be the problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Do you know any social advanced, free and human rights respecting Theocracy? The problem with Trump is, apart of the religion, that he is an ignorant and stupid nazi asshole. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago The reason I know this is fake is because the book isn't upside down permalink fedilink source parent [–] SupremeDonut@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago First of all, no. Secondly, no. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zippo@midwest.social 1 point 1 year ago greed first. its religion AND capital. cherry-picked fairy tales used to oppress and control, making the privileged more powerful and less empathetic, brainwashing the ignorant and leading to so much pointless hate-- religion is a sword and greed is the hand holding it. maybe im wrong but religion wouldnt exist if people didnt want more and more and more. more power, more superiority, more land (bc saying the land is holy and promised to you means its ok to take it by force), even the audacity to believe death isnt the end, they can have more life and shit? you cant own death. mankind evolved with so much creativity and abstract capabilities and this is where we are, dumb as hell. permalink fedilink source parent [–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago* Gotta erase all those disgusting borders. Likewise gotta end the most violent and brainwashed religion of them all: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago Religion isn't the cause, the mode of production is. Economic factors are far more important when it comes to war, including this one. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Luccajan@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (4 children) If there is no religion people will find something else to fight over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) Maybe, but religion had caused infinite more wars than all other reasons together in the whole history. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago No, economic factors matter far more. Religion is often used as an excuse, or plays some role, but the real drive is access to trade or resources or labor in the vast majority of cases. permalink fedilink source parent [–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago Yes, and it's almost entirely due to one religion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion permalink fedilink source parent [–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago In reality nobody is actually fighting for "religion". They're actually fighting for nationalism, capitalism, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) Maybe, but religion had caused infinite more wars than all other reasons together in the whole history. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago No, economic factors matter far more. Religion is often used as an excuse, or plays some role, but the real drive is access to trade or resources or labor in the vast majority of cases. permalink fedilink source parent [–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago Yes, and it's almost entirely due to one religion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago No, economic factors matter far more. Religion is often used as an excuse, or plays some role, but the real drive is access to trade or resources or labor in the vast majority of cases. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago Yes, and it's almost entirely due to one religion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion permalink fedilink source parent
[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago In reality nobody is actually fighting for "religion". They're actually fighting for nationalism, capitalism, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion permalink fedilink source parent
[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children) Yeah Donald Trump is a devout Christian that must be the problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Do you know any social advanced, free and human rights respecting Theocracy? The problem with Trump is, apart of the religion, that he is an ignorant and stupid nazi asshole. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago The reason I know this is fake is because the book isn't upside down permalink fedilink source parent [–] SupremeDonut@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago First of all, no. Secondly, no. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Do you know any social advanced, free and human rights respecting Theocracy? The problem with Trump is, apart of the religion, that he is an ignorant and stupid nazi asshole. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago The reason I know this is fake is because the book isn't upside down permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago The reason I know this is fake is because the book isn't upside down permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SupremeDonut@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago First of all, no. Secondly, no. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zippo@midwest.social 1 point 1 year ago greed first. its religion AND capital. cherry-picked fairy tales used to oppress and control, making the privileged more powerful and less empathetic, brainwashing the ignorant and leading to so much pointless hate-- religion is a sword and greed is the hand holding it. maybe im wrong but religion wouldnt exist if people didnt want more and more and more. more power, more superiority, more land (bc saying the land is holy and promised to you means its ok to take it by force), even the audacity to believe death isnt the end, they can have more life and shit? you cant own death. mankind evolved with so much creativity and abstract capabilities and this is where we are, dumb as hell. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago* Gotta erase all those disgusting borders. Likewise gotta end the most violent and brainwashed religion of them all: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion permalink fedilink source parent