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Liberals be like (lemmy.ml)
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[–] -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think that's because we have a difference of perspective on degrees of bad. I think all deaths caused by capitalism are bad, and equal bad to all the deaths that are the result of authoritarian countries calling themselves communist.

So i fundamentally disagree with the "relative to what" because a life is worth the same regardless of where they live and who they are.

We are able to, and I am talking about the harm, and I am pointing out that this meme is designed to create an emotional response to the 2nd point and not to both points. Thats all, its manipulative and propagandist which makes it in bad faith, and you are welcome to defend either position, I will just disagree.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I think all deaths caused by capitalism are bad, and equal bad to all the deaths that are the result of authoritarian countries calling themselves communist.

    You want to obscure the larger number because you want the smaller number to look bad. We're not allowed to talk about the larger number. We're not allowed to criticize your side.

    So what you just said is a fucking lie, isn't it? If they were equal you would permit both be examined. You would admit that the one with the larger death count is worse. That's the exact opposite of what you're pushing for. Your agenda is at odds with reality.

    You don't actually care about people dying. Your actions betray your rhetoric.

    So i fundamentally disagree with the “relative to what” because a life is worth the same regardless of where they live and who they are.

    And there you go doubling down. Hollow rhetoric sidestepping the actual objection. Cynical. Deliberate.

    I will just disagree.

    And I think we can all put together why you disagree (you're a nazi).

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You want to obscure the larger number because you want the smaller number to look bad. We’re not allowed to talk about the larger number. We’re not allowed to criticize your side.

    Not my side, and no I dont want to diminish the larger number, same as I dont want to diminish the smaller number. People should not have to die for political or economic system to function.

    I am examining both, and I am pointing out that the image posted does not examine both, it deliberately attempts to shape the discussion around ignoring self proclaimed communist deaths.

    You don’t actually care about people dying. Your actions betray your rhetoric.

    What? I am sorry what actions am i taking that betray my values?

    And I think we can all put together why you disagree (you’re a nazi).

    I dont know how you came to the conclusion that I am a Nazi, but I can assure you I am not. I dont want to kill or marginalize any group, and I have actually been working for years to cast off my inherited privilege or use it for reparations.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Not my side

    Only in so far as you mouth the words that you don't support them while rhetorically supporting them.

    and no I dont want to diminish the larger number

    Yet you are. Belligerently so at this point.

    People should not have to die for political or economic system to function.

    Mind palace baby brain. Once again flattening all context and history to equate a system that literally functions by killing people and one that you wish to paint as equal because mortality continued to exist under it.

    If you were doing that out of ignorance one would hope you would have the humility to not dig your heels in so I assume you're doing it deliberately to advocate your side. Because you're a nazi.

    What? I am sorry what actions am i taking that betray my values?

    You're not betraying your values; you're lying about what your values are.

    I can assure you I am not. I dont want to kill or marginalize any group

    And I bet you could convince sleepwalkers who aren't paying close attention that you actually mean this shit. But you do indeed want people to die, and you want them to die by the tens of millions each year. That's the functional position you're taking by defending those deaths. And you can't pretend you're not defending them by hiding them behind a curtain while you demonize the alternative that costs fewer lives.

    You're a nazi because you want to use violence to defend capitalism. That's pretty much the textbook definition of fascism.

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