cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/37343241

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Lick that boot harder.

    We have plenty of videos naming and shaming cops who violate our civil rights, often times in deadly violations, and they're all doing just fine and none of them faced anything more than sometime justice for the inhumane and civil rights violating actions.

    It will be the same here, name, shame and make sure they never work in any position of power ever again.

    ETA, yet another hours old troll account. To the block list you go.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (22 children)

    I speak for most of the world here when I say, yes.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    Mate, just get gone. That shit doesn't fly here, and you're not going to change anyone's mind.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Ice is literally the gestapo yes

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    No no, you revealed yourself when you assumed that people who don't agree with the existence of ICE want to "defend foreigners". It's nationalist shite, and it's really old.
    Edit: and yes, it's an echo chamber. That's why I'm here: so I don't have to deal with people like you.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Unless you are a native American, you're from immigrants and you're just trying to pull up the ladder behind you.

    Why do you hate foreigners so much?

    Not at all, I like to disagree, that's one way of learning new stuff. But your views are so at odds with reality there is very little chance of me learning from you.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Well, I'm here for the light entertainment and pleasant discourse with like minded people.

    Why are you here?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    ICE isn't law enforcement. It is Trumps private thugs. Much like the SS in Germany.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    The "law" they're enforcing is Trump's edicts. Immigration law as it's existed for some time doesn't call for this kind of action. Trump doesn't get to write law, that's for the legislature. He's there to carry out and enforce existing law, not create it, not reinterpret it, not ignore it, and CERTAINLY not to gaslight the American people about it.

    The way Trump treats law is literally un-American.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (9 children)
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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Refugees can't leave when they want. Otherwise they would not be refugees. Also, ice prevents people from even getting their papers on top of arresting citizens.

    And why should I care about what a bunch of pigs do? They can get real jobs.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    Those countries are often hostile to. And yeah, I don't like law enforcement that ignores out constitutional rights.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    No. They are not getting any due process. 9lus why is crossing the boarder now a crime worthy of sending people to concentration camps the people never been to?

    Or how about the agents attacking g protesters for no reason?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    So you think they're comitting horrific crimes against humanity on par with the nazis then?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (37 children)

    "To death" was your own addition there. Way to reveal yourself.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (34 children)

    Ahh yes, the only two possible options...

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (32 children)

    Dude, you're really bad at this. Are you familiar with due process?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (30 children)

    Even crimes against humanity don't make someone "illegal" or mean they don't deserve due process. Even if deportation were an appropriate response (which it's not), due process must still be respected. Including against Barack Obama and Donald Trump.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (28 children)

    You're the one who's claiming people's existence is illegal. I'm saying that everyone deserves due process. Being legal doesn't make something moral. Just ask Holocaust survivors.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (26 children)

    Why do you keep trying to change the subject, and why do you keep claiming ICE agents are "illegals?"

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (24 children)

    This conversation is about ICE agents, not undocumented immigrants.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (22 children)

    Wow, you really are bad at this! You know there's a written record, right?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (20 children)

    You keep trying to change the subject to undocumented immigrants, but this conversation isn't about that. It's about people who work for ICE. Or are you claiming that ICE agents are undocumented immigrants?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (18 children)

    ICE aren’t illegal immigrants

    Great, thanks for establishing that we both agree that (at least as far as we're aware) ICE isn't made up of undocumented immigrants. Therefore the topic of what to do with undocumented immigrants is irrelevant to this conversation.

    Now we can get back to the meat of the issue: what to do with ICE agents.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    Cool, so you do understand that immigration law isn't the right framework for determining what to do with ICE agents. Why do you keep asking irrelevant questions then?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    You can't even show that you're competent enough to show why your question is relevant, and yet you expect me to prove myself? Try again dude.

    And I've already answered what I think should be done with ICE agents. My answer of "due process" was that sent you off into this irrelevant discussion in the first place.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (12 children)

    Refusing to answer your irrelevant questions doesn't make me ignorant of the topic.

    Do you think ICE agents deserve due process? Why or why not?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Wait... Are you repeatedly asking me this because you don't know and are desperate to find out? You do know that search engines exist to help you with this, right? You don't have to pathetically beg some stranger to do your research for you.

    I asked a simple yes or no question. Do you believe ICE agents deserve due process?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    You seem like you're desperate to find this out because someone else asked you and you don't know how to use DuckDuckGo. Otherwise you wouldn't be insistent on bringing up that irrelevant question.

    I'm glad we've established that we both agree that ICE agents deserve due process. It took far longer than I expected to get agreement on that simple topic out of you.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (6 children)

    Lol ok really are desperate aren't you? Unfortunately, pathetic berating isn't going to make me do your research for you. Search engines exist. You can use one to answer your own question at any time.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    Cool, so go ahead and use one and stop harassing me.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    If you picked up a history book, you would know there isnt much of a difference of functions in what ICE is doing versus the Gestapo back in WW2.

    Way to reveal yourself

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Buddy you know that many many different things happened other than the killing of Jews right

    Like the many years of buildup before that point. How can you people be this dumb lol

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Because they're hurting the right people.

    Yep, it's that simple. The Mango Mussolini's current targets align with their own prejudices, so they get their short skirts and pompoms on and go out and cheer for the trouser shitting, terrified old man and his "proud boys" larping as "patriots".

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    No, it's not. But you really should take advice and pick up a history book. There are a terrifying amount of parallels with ICE and literally every single dictator's secret police, not just the Gestapo.
    What you remember from history is the endgame of this, and we're not there yet. If you want to get the comparisons you need to read a little about how things got to the point where millions of Jewish people (and others, mind, it wasn't only Jewish) were genocided.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I want inhumane behaviour dealt with accordingly, bit I am strictly against death sentences.

    It is horrible that USA still makes death sentences in my opinion.

    It is unforgivable, but mistakes happen everywhere.

    There are better ways to punish.

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