▲ 145 ▼ But according to the libs round here, ChInA BaDDDDddd (lemmy.ml) submitted 1 year ago by jankforlife@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml 185 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 1 year ago (8 children) Their comment wasn't about government approval. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (7 children) Do you think a people who were living in poverty and had terrible living conditions would be overwhelmingly supportive of their government? Come on now think for a second here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev -2 points 1 year ago (6 children) The following is just a really odd way to convince someone of something in my opinion. "China is one of the countries with the highest approval of their government by independent studies." Government approval is inversely correlated with poverty and terrible living conditions. Therefore it is unlikely that "they def aren't living like this" It's also especially odd if you're mentioning independent studies. Are there not independent studies about the living conditions? And to be clear, I don't even disagree with you. I think a lot of westerners are affected by racist/orientalist views (or whatever you wanna call them) without realizing it. It just felt like a strange way to counter the thought process. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (5 children) I mention "independent studies" because people are insane and will call anything pro-China you say as just Chinese propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) Nothing I was said was about "independent studies" versus "studies". I get your point, I'm just saying that wasn't part of what I found odd. I only used the phrase independent studies instead of studies because you did. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) Brother I only said what I said because you literally said you thought me saying it was weird. If you want to look at living standards you can compare cost of living, access to public transportation, cost of food, medicine, you name it. Its all cheaper and rapidly approaching parity with the west, if not already surpassing it. But again living standards are often highly correlated with approval of your nation and the government running it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev -5 points 1 year ago (2 children) I feel like there's some hostility or defensiveness and we keep talking past each other when trying to resolve it, so I'm going to drop the topic because I don't think there are actually any disagreements between us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) If there's any hostility it was initiated by yourself my friend. Feel free to see yourself out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev -5 points 1 year ago If there's any hostility it was initiated by yourself my friend. Bullshit. Come on now think for a second here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (7 children) Do you think a people who were living in poverty and had terrible living conditions would be overwhelmingly supportive of their government? Come on now think for a second here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev -2 points 1 year ago (6 children) The following is just a really odd way to convince someone of something in my opinion. "China is one of the countries with the highest approval of their government by independent studies." Government approval is inversely correlated with poverty and terrible living conditions. Therefore it is unlikely that "they def aren't living like this" It's also especially odd if you're mentioning independent studies. Are there not independent studies about the living conditions? And to be clear, I don't even disagree with you. I think a lot of westerners are affected by racist/orientalist views (or whatever you wanna call them) without realizing it. It just felt like a strange way to counter the thought process. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (5 children) I mention "independent studies" because people are insane and will call anything pro-China you say as just Chinese propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) Nothing I was said was about "independent studies" versus "studies". I get your point, I'm just saying that wasn't part of what I found odd. I only used the phrase independent studies instead of studies because you did. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) Brother I only said what I said because you literally said you thought me saying it was weird. If you want to look at living standards you can compare cost of living, access to public transportation, cost of food, medicine, you name it. Its all cheaper and rapidly approaching parity with the west, if not already surpassing it. But again living standards are often highly correlated with approval of your nation and the government running it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev -5 points 1 year ago (2 children) I feel like there's some hostility or defensiveness and we keep talking past each other when trying to resolve it, so I'm going to drop the topic because I don't think there are actually any disagreements between us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) If there's any hostility it was initiated by yourself my friend. Feel free to see yourself out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev -5 points 1 year ago If there's any hostility it was initiated by yourself my friend. Bullshit. Come on now think for a second here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev -2 points 1 year ago (6 children) The following is just a really odd way to convince someone of something in my opinion. "China is one of the countries with the highest approval of their government by independent studies." Government approval is inversely correlated with poverty and terrible living conditions. Therefore it is unlikely that "they def aren't living like this" It's also especially odd if you're mentioning independent studies. Are there not independent studies about the living conditions? And to be clear, I don't even disagree with you. I think a lot of westerners are affected by racist/orientalist views (or whatever you wanna call them) without realizing it. It just felt like a strange way to counter the thought process. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (5 children) I mention "independent studies" because people are insane and will call anything pro-China you say as just Chinese propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) Nothing I was said was about "independent studies" versus "studies". I get your point, I'm just saying that wasn't part of what I found odd. I only used the phrase independent studies instead of studies because you did. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) Brother I only said what I said because you literally said you thought me saying it was weird. If you want to look at living standards you can compare cost of living, access to public transportation, cost of food, medicine, you name it. Its all cheaper and rapidly approaching parity with the west, if not already surpassing it. But again living standards are often highly correlated with approval of your nation and the government running it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev -5 points 1 year ago (2 children) I feel like there's some hostility or defensiveness and we keep talking past each other when trying to resolve it, so I'm going to drop the topic because I don't think there are actually any disagreements between us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) If there's any hostility it was initiated by yourself my friend. Feel free to see yourself out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev -5 points 1 year ago If there's any hostility it was initiated by yourself my friend. Bullshit. Come on now think for a second here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (5 children) I mention "independent studies" because people are insane and will call anything pro-China you say as just Chinese propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) Nothing I was said was about "independent studies" versus "studies". I get your point, I'm just saying that wasn't part of what I found odd. I only used the phrase independent studies instead of studies because you did. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) Brother I only said what I said because you literally said you thought me saying it was weird. If you want to look at living standards you can compare cost of living, access to public transportation, cost of food, medicine, you name it. Its all cheaper and rapidly approaching parity with the west, if not already surpassing it. But again living standards are often highly correlated with approval of your nation and the government running it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev -5 points 1 year ago (2 children) I feel like there's some hostility or defensiveness and we keep talking past each other when trying to resolve it, so I'm going to drop the topic because I don't think there are actually any disagreements between us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) If there's any hostility it was initiated by yourself my friend. Feel free to see yourself out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev -5 points 1 year ago If there's any hostility it was initiated by yourself my friend. Bullshit. Come on now think for a second here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) Nothing I was said was about "independent studies" versus "studies". I get your point, I'm just saying that wasn't part of what I found odd. I only used the phrase independent studies instead of studies because you did. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) Brother I only said what I said because you literally said you thought me saying it was weird. If you want to look at living standards you can compare cost of living, access to public transportation, cost of food, medicine, you name it. Its all cheaper and rapidly approaching parity with the west, if not already surpassing it. But again living standards are often highly correlated with approval of your nation and the government running it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev -5 points 1 year ago (2 children) I feel like there's some hostility or defensiveness and we keep talking past each other when trying to resolve it, so I'm going to drop the topic because I don't think there are actually any disagreements between us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) If there's any hostility it was initiated by yourself my friend. Feel free to see yourself out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev -5 points 1 year ago If there's any hostility it was initiated by yourself my friend. Bullshit. Come on now think for a second here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) Brother I only said what I said because you literally said you thought me saying it was weird. If you want to look at living standards you can compare cost of living, access to public transportation, cost of food, medicine, you name it. Its all cheaper and rapidly approaching parity with the west, if not already surpassing it. But again living standards are often highly correlated with approval of your nation and the government running it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev -5 points 1 year ago (2 children) I feel like there's some hostility or defensiveness and we keep talking past each other when trying to resolve it, so I'm going to drop the topic because I don't think there are actually any disagreements between us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) If there's any hostility it was initiated by yourself my friend. Feel free to see yourself out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev -5 points 1 year ago If there's any hostility it was initiated by yourself my friend. Bullshit. Come on now think for a second here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev -5 points 1 year ago (2 children) I feel like there's some hostility or defensiveness and we keep talking past each other when trying to resolve it, so I'm going to drop the topic because I don't think there are actually any disagreements between us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) If there's any hostility it was initiated by yourself my friend. Feel free to see yourself out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev -5 points 1 year ago If there's any hostility it was initiated by yourself my friend. Bullshit. Come on now think for a second here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) If there's any hostility it was initiated by yourself my friend. Feel free to see yourself out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev -5 points 1 year ago If there's any hostility it was initiated by yourself my friend. Bullshit. Come on now think for a second here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev -5 points 1 year ago If there's any hostility it was initiated by yourself my friend. Bullshit. Come on now think for a second here. permalink fedilink source parent