▲ 673 ▼ Amazon is making it impossible to remove the DRM from Kindle Books (goodereader.com) submitted 1 year ago by dantheclamman@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 297 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 52 points 1 year ago (13 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children) Just wait until you can only stream books, not download them, with random words replaced with synonyms using an algorithm that lets them track down who the originator of any scanned copies is. That might sound ridiculous, but streaming-only to prevent perfect copies and hiding purchaser identifiers in the data are both DRM techniques that have been explored in other media already. There's no limit to how anti-consumer publishers can get when they think there's slightly more money to be had. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] piecat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Log2(8.2billion) is about 33. That means if each word only had 1 synonym, you only need to change 33 words to uniquely identify who was responsible. 21 words need to change if each has 3 options. 17 words for 4 options. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago Then we change an additional 100 words in the process, and their tell becomes a tale. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Andrew@mnstdn.monster 2 points 1 year ago Then it just takes two accounts to stream, compare, and patch. :) with every escalation the people have found a way. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 year ago (8 children) There's no impossible because if you can see it, it can be captured and digitized, but there is a level of complication that can make it unreasonable. They could make it unreasonable to crack the drm outright and require you to screenshot/OCR it. Then they can limit the OS to make to difficult to automate capture. Bottom line, they're just kicking payers off their network when it's easier to pirate it than to buy it through their service. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] czl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) Something something, piracy is a service problem. That’s why Spotify et al. still thrive, but more and more the Netflixes of the world are being replaced with yaaar permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MITM0@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago It's also a pricing issue as well. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EffortlessEffluvium@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) The analog hole works on a lot of stuff permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago That's my post apoc Youtube plan. Play on a sanctioned browser with videos and use comskip, write them off to my storage. We're going back to my TV->AVI setup from 2003, only maybe we'll use HVEC this time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) but there is a level of complication that can make it unreasonable. Lol, just read the Arch Wiki about Bluray playing. Unreasonable only takes a bit longer. Especially engineering people get creative out of interest if they're denied access. And that's a beautiful thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago MakeMKV is in AUR :) Sure, it's not playing a disk... permalink fedilink source parent [–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) require you to screenshot/OCR it So just like what people do with paper books. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago What GOOGLE did WITHOUT PERMISSION to paper books. ;) I've imaged a few short books with a cellphone and page correction software. It takes dedication to make a pleasant final product. But those vacuum book scanners are freaking amazing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children) Just wait until you can only stream books, not download them, with random words replaced with synonyms using an algorithm that lets them track down who the originator of any scanned copies is. That might sound ridiculous, but streaming-only to prevent perfect copies and hiding purchaser identifiers in the data are both DRM techniques that have been explored in other media already. There's no limit to how anti-consumer publishers can get when they think there's slightly more money to be had. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] piecat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Log2(8.2billion) is about 33. That means if each word only had 1 synonym, you only need to change 33 words to uniquely identify who was responsible. 21 words need to change if each has 3 options. 17 words for 4 options. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago Then we change an additional 100 words in the process, and their tell becomes a tale. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Andrew@mnstdn.monster 2 points 1 year ago Then it just takes two accounts to stream, compare, and patch. :) with every escalation the people have found a way. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] piecat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Log2(8.2billion) is about 33. That means if each word only had 1 synonym, you only need to change 33 words to uniquely identify who was responsible. 21 words need to change if each has 3 options. 17 words for 4 options. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago Then we change an additional 100 words in the process, and their tell becomes a tale. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago Then we change an additional 100 words in the process, and their tell becomes a tale. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Andrew@mnstdn.monster 2 points 1 year ago Then it just takes two accounts to stream, compare, and patch. :) with every escalation the people have found a way. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 year ago (8 children) There's no impossible because if you can see it, it can be captured and digitized, but there is a level of complication that can make it unreasonable. They could make it unreasonable to crack the drm outright and require you to screenshot/OCR it. Then they can limit the OS to make to difficult to automate capture. Bottom line, they're just kicking payers off their network when it's easier to pirate it than to buy it through their service. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] czl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) Something something, piracy is a service problem. That’s why Spotify et al. still thrive, but more and more the Netflixes of the world are being replaced with yaaar permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MITM0@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago It's also a pricing issue as well. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EffortlessEffluvium@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) The analog hole works on a lot of stuff permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago That's my post apoc Youtube plan. Play on a sanctioned browser with videos and use comskip, write them off to my storage. We're going back to my TV->AVI setup from 2003, only maybe we'll use HVEC this time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) but there is a level of complication that can make it unreasonable. Lol, just read the Arch Wiki about Bluray playing. Unreasonable only takes a bit longer. Especially engineering people get creative out of interest if they're denied access. And that's a beautiful thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago MakeMKV is in AUR :) Sure, it's not playing a disk... permalink fedilink source parent [–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) require you to screenshot/OCR it So just like what people do with paper books. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago What GOOGLE did WITHOUT PERMISSION to paper books. ;) I've imaged a few short books with a cellphone and page correction software. It takes dedication to make a pleasant final product. But those vacuum book scanners are freaking amazing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] czl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) Something something, piracy is a service problem. That’s why Spotify et al. still thrive, but more and more the Netflixes of the world are being replaced with yaaar permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MITM0@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago It's also a pricing issue as well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago It's also a pricing issue as well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EffortlessEffluvium@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) The analog hole works on a lot of stuff permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago That's my post apoc Youtube plan. Play on a sanctioned browser with videos and use comskip, write them off to my storage. We're going back to my TV->AVI setup from 2003, only maybe we'll use HVEC this time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago That's my post apoc Youtube plan. Play on a sanctioned browser with videos and use comskip, write them off to my storage. We're going back to my TV->AVI setup from 2003, only maybe we'll use HVEC this time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) but there is a level of complication that can make it unreasonable. Lol, just read the Arch Wiki about Bluray playing. Unreasonable only takes a bit longer. Especially engineering people get creative out of interest if they're denied access. And that's a beautiful thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago MakeMKV is in AUR :) Sure, it's not playing a disk... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago MakeMKV is in AUR :) Sure, it's not playing a disk... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) require you to screenshot/OCR it So just like what people do with paper books. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago What GOOGLE did WITHOUT PERMISSION to paper books. ;) I've imaged a few short books with a cellphone and page correction software. It takes dedication to make a pleasant final product. But those vacuum book scanners are freaking amazing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago What GOOGLE did WITHOUT PERMISSION to paper books. ;) I've imaged a few short books with a cellphone and page correction software. It takes dedication to make a pleasant final product. But those vacuum book scanners are freaking amazing. permalink fedilink source parent