Slavery never left it just got rebranded.

The Thirteenth Amendment needs to be amended.

Per Wikipedia: The Thirteenth Amendment (Amendment XIII) to the United States Constitution abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime. The amendment was passed by the Senate on April 8, 1864, by the House of Representatives on January 31, 1865, and ratified by the required 27 of the then 36 states on December 6, 1865, and proclaimed on December 18, 1865. It was the first of the three Reconstruction Amendments adopted following the American Civil War.

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[–] 144 points 1 year ago (31 children)

Guess I won't be eating food any more

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  • [–] 64 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I'm gonna need something a bit more specific than Costco, Sam's Club, Kroger, Walmart, and Target. Are you saying ALL products in those stores are from slave labor? Most? Some? A few obscure items?

    I don't really have any other options for groceries where I live.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Now is a very good time to become a subsistence farmer.

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  • [–] 49 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Because that's totally something most people have access to and can do.

    Gonna start substinence farming inside my apartment deep in the concrete jungle of the inner city, yup.

    The world has changed deeply since the era where that was a way out of this. The majority of US citizens literally do not have access to arable land.

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    let's not coddle the media illiterate

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    Sometimes it isn't even media literacy. I've known several nuero divergent people over the years who can have a hard time understanding sarcasm in person unless the person being sarcastic is really over doing it. They have no chance differentiating sarcastic and serious if it's written.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Sarcasm and irony on the Internet are dead though. We live in post-sane times, i cannot ever assume the other person is not completely serious about the utterly deranged and/or idiotic shit they write or say.

    I must always assume that yes, that person is in fact as stupid as they seem until proven otherwise/indicated by an /s.

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  • [+] -13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    that really sounds like a you problem, bud. good luck out there lol

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Honestly, as an old tyme closet grower, with about $300-400 in led lighting and a closet or small area that you could put a blackout grow enclosure, you could work 2-4 hydroponic buckets and get a shit load of tomatoes, and probably a few other fruit/vegetable strains.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Indoor vertical farming is quite efficient.

    Get a tent and a light, there’s no need for attitude because you can’t think up already available solutions.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The power requirements are astronomical, let alone the initial investment and upkeep.

    My yard is 80' x 200'. I might be able to feed my wife and I off that, no more. We'd be near starving, and likely would in the years it would take to work it out anything more than corn or potatoes. I have 2.5 acres of swamp in NW Florida. Can't grow shit there.

    There's a swamp down the road. I'd struggle to bring home a meaningful amount of fish. The creek that pours of it runs behind our house. About zero fish. I'd burn more calories trying to catch one than I'd gain.

    Sometimes I could shoot a deer! But, as with the fish, when everyone's hungry, nothing with fur would be left after a month.

    SOURCE: Been growing plants for 35 years.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I've read a few accounts of people who've attempted to become completely self-sufficient. Even those with lots of land who spend all their time farming/fishing/hunting find that it's pretty much impossible these days. If you did achieve self-sufficiency at some point, you'd likely only be one failed crop from starving most of the time.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    you'd likely only be one failed crop from starving most of the time.

    Which is basically synonymous with subsistence farming, absent community or govt support. Lots of commenters who have obviously never needed to grow food to survive. Trust me, it is deeply unglamorous and insecure and always has been.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It's just part of living in a corporate hellscape.

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    I like CSAs. All I really need to buy from stores is stuff like protein and grains. There are local CSAs in my area that even offer meat, eggs, and milk.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    There's one just down the street from me! A day's worth of food is about $100 there. So, uh.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Hmm. Yeah, my local farmer's markets are expensive, but the CSA subscriptions are reasonable (i.e. the ones where you pay upfront for the season's produce, reducing the farmer's risk, then get a box of produce every week). Some, you can volunteer on the farm to get "free" food.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    All the subscriptions I've looked at are significantly costlier than grocery stores, on the same order as the ship I mentioned. I get the impression that they're trying to just tybdercut restaurant prices, as if their target market is people who would otherwise eat out every meal. Maybe I'm just not finding the right ones, but what I can budget for is restaurant supply and warehouse prices.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Most of my local ones are registered on https://www.localharvest.org/ (their map seems to be messed up right now, but seems to work if you type in a zipcode, select CSA from the dropdown, and press "GO"). They are more expensive than groceries stores, but don't use heavily exploited labor, and you often get a lot of weird/cool stuff normal grocery stores don't sell.

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