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So apparently JD Vance wants to tax "childlessness" Make America Fertile Again: The strange bedfellows of the new baby boom agenda (reason.com)
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[–] 58 points 1 year ago (24 children)

This isn't how you get me to have a kid. This is how you get me to dodge taxes.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Off to gulag, then.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah, I'll just start claiming nonexistent dependants. Or I'll start claiming my pets as my children on all legal documents.

    Probably isn't that hard to get forgeries of all sorts of documentation like birth certificates, etc.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    You probably don't even have to try very hard. My cat, which I had when I was a kid and died of old age decades ago, regularly gets preapproved credit card offers sent to my father's house. Still.

    Yes, literally a cat. Like, furry, pointy ears, tail, and meow?

    I have to think it would be fairly trivial if I put my mind to it and had larceny in my heart to eventually build up enough documentation to get at least some state entities to believe my dead cat is actually a living human, and then do any old thing with that identity.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    I may be misremembering... because we're in the process of "correcting" our history but:

    Wasn't "no taxation without representation" kinda a foundation on which this nation was formed? Just sayin'

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    Unless you live in a US territory or DC, you have representation.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (11 children)

    Depending on where you live, "representation" means less than the paper it's written on.

    Do you oppose AI-powered surveillance in your local city? Golly, that's swell and all, but they already made up their mind months ago! Everything else is just a formality, and they're more than happy to make it as difficult as possible for you to be heard during public meetings.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Argue against representative democracies, then. Claiming it doesn't exist is just wrong, though.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (8 children)

    Your comments have a certain vibe about them, don't they?

    They hold elections in Russia.

    Based on your logic - I imagine they have a great deal of choice then, as well.

    Breathe easy! I don't expect a response:

    Government is flawed in all forms and corruption can fundamentally prevent any flavor of it from working as intended.

    There are infinite circular arguments that can spin up from nitpicking any obvious issues... available to anyone seeking the low hanging fruit. Your comments here do a fine job of providing examples.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    "Vibes" are not evidence, and "Bad thing exists that claims to do good thing, so good thing must actually be bad!" is not a reasonable argument. I never claimed any democracy is perfect, or even suggested as much.

    If you hate being "nitpicked" over your unfounded arguments, maybe don't make them, then.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (6 children)

    ... and if you have something meaningful to add to a conversation or post: I'd suggest something more substantial than "Nuh, uh - prove me wrong" or some other equally low effort form of trolling. It's practically textbook. At least attempt to mask it.

    I digress.

    Topically - I enjoy discussion. With that said: only one of us attempted to polarize an observation into a black and white topic. Curious. Vibes seem to check out.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    "Starts off claiming [thing] doesn't exist. Accuses others of 'polarizing' discussion and calls them trolls." Sure thing, bub.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    Everything down to that response is reductive, misinformed, and right out of the classic playbook.

    On the off chance you are actually that unaware of your response patterns:

    My most sincere apologies - I mistakenly thought you were at least being paid to be that obtuse. It would appear you are just a natural.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    The idea that anyone that would dare disagree with you must be getting paid for it is staggeringly egocentric. Keep up with the name calling, though. It does a great job showing your comments for what they are.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    You'd have to have actually posted something meaningful that was discussion worthy for that to happen. I applaud the wounded behavior.... also a fallback mechanism in the aforementioned guide.

    You could just be a fallacy factory without realizing it. A natural. Who's to say:

    You injected yourself in these threads. You even spun up the imaginary conflict in which you were going to argue about. You picked the topic you weren't equipped to discuss. It isn't my, or anyone else's, duty to caudle you when that blows up in your face. Act like a twat - be treated as such.

    Typically I find amusement in dealing with people like you but - you may as well have been posting from a response tree.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    "If you have an issue with the tea taxes please direct your concerns to your representative in the house of lords"

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Did colonists get to vote on their representative every 2 years? No? Ok, not the same then.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It should be noted that the colonies did have their fair share of English apologists. Thank you for offering up an example that can be used in the present day.

    While "ack-shu-ally" history does not repeat itself - it does tend to rhyme.

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