I absolutely have not been insisting that I'm not a liberal. You are fantasizing statements by me that I never said again. When did I say that I was not a liberal? This is probably the closest thing I said:
Okay, so you think I’m probably a liberal. Noted. ... you’re using this label in a very particular way. So I can’t even really say anything about the application of the label being right or not. By some definitions, I am. By some definitions, I’m not. My argument is that the application of the label by a big contingent on Lemmy doesn’t even really have any factual definition, it’s more just a trigger word with a pretty fluid definition which changes around as needed to attack enemies or accuse them of things. Your reaction to me saying most Democrats in government are center-right conservatives for example is super telling to me, where if we were talking about some other topic I feel like it’s likely that you would instantly agree with that.
I just noticed also that a big chunk of my whole discussion with you is violating rule 7. I think it is a pretty stupid practice to mandate that only one side of certain ideological arguments is permitted ("It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself." -TJ), but sure, rule 7 I guess. I'll probably make some response in some other community at some point down the road, if you want to continue this whole sprawling debate in a different location; I feel like there is maybe some useful common ground to be had.