I'm trans and I very much care about not ending up in a concentration camp, please. (And yes I voted for Harris, but for the love of God can we take over the primaries next time, so the neoliberals are the ones holding their nose and voting?)

Since then all the liberals seem to be busy meeting the moment with capitulation and self-censorship, it's clear they were never allies.

It was never about being allies with the liberals. It was ALWAYS about choosing the best VIABLE choice for the working class, for minorities, for women, for our planet.

And y'all dropped the fucking ball.

Even in a garunteed blue state, action I spires action. Discourse even to just a handful, has an echoing effect to someone who can male a difference. But you lot lack any strategic vision or foresight.

I don't care if I end up in a concentration camp, fuck this rancid ass country.

Spoken like someone who hasn't experienced real danger and doesn't even comprehend the real danger their in.

If it means anything, I don't give a fuck what happens to you specifically either. I give a fuck about the millions of innocent people who are now damned to death and suffering. And all of it could've been avoided if more leftists were actual fucking adults and observed the reality before them last November.

Lemmy is not really big enough yet to attract Russian trolls.

Your conspiracy isn't true, mine is!

Actually I think it's vitally important that voters learn from this. Or you'll all be doomed to repeat this mistake again in the future, if you get the chance that is.

Virtue Signalling leftists when boycotting voting for Hillary didn't turn the Dems left so why the fuck would boycotting Kamala do it?

I completely agree on the idea of voting for Harris for harm reduction. But I'm genuinely curious why you think her being elected would put us in a better position to get progressive reform. She showed that she was completely unwilling to back down or change her stance to get elected. Once she had won the election, there really isn't any reason for her to change her stance. Even the idea that she would try to gain popularity to be reelected seems unlikely. Because if we have already proven that we'll vote for someone not because they have good policies, but because they have less bad policies. The next election would be the same. With her most likely running for reelection. And either Trump or some other far right extremist running against her, forcing a repeat of the hypothetical 2024 election where she won.

It's a rather bleak cycle, that makes it frustrating when people constantly hammer against the voters for not holding their nose and voting for the lesser of two evil, rather than the Democratic party in general for not listening to what their constituents want, and changing to a more populist progressive policy. I don't agree with the protest voters, but I can at least empathize and understand where they're coming from.

The really depressing thing is that even after losing because of it, we're still not seeing much of a shift within the party. This should have been a wake up call for them. But it seems they still haven't learned their lesson and seem more intent on using the Republican party as a cudgel to beat the population into voting for them, rather than actually adopting policies that make people want to vote for them.