▲ 402 ▼ EU Chat Control: Germany's position has been reverted to UNDECIDED (mastodon.social) submitted 1 year ago by floofloof@lemmy.ca to c/technology@lemmy.world 47 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmy.bestiver.se/post/622792 Comments
[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago* (11 children) I am surprised by Sweden and Denmark being in favor. permalink fedilink source hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] migo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 year ago (2 children) They've been reverting a lot of that Nordic socialism due to the usual anti-immigrant rhetoric permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Natanael@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago And a right wing government here in Sweden relying on a far right party to stay in power, all in favor of heavy surveillance permalink fedilink source parent [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago Social democracy, not socialism permalink fedilink source parent [–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children) I‘m not surprised in the slightest given who governs these countries nowadays. They‘re far more right than your average EU country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) Weirdly, social democrat Ylva Johansson proposed the first chat control bill. https://sv.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chat_Control I don't think it's fair to blame the right in this case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) In the end of the day it‘s the wealthy & powerful VS us. You are also not a socialist if you propose something like this. Simple as. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 year ago Yes I agree. I suspect they were tricked by some higher ups in EU to put the bill forwards as being a socialist idea, selling it to a wider crowd. permalink fedilink source parent [–] themagzuz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago afaik denmark isn't just in favor, but they're also responsible for pushing the legislation higher on the agenda after it was dropped last time. i think it's because the current ruling coalition consists of the "social democrat party" (actually just red flavored populist centerish party) in an alliance with the "moderate party" (centrist flavored center-right wing party) and the liberal (as in libertarianism) party (center-right/right/conservative party), so basically denmark has been under a quite conservative government lately, despite the PM selling the coalition as "across the center" permalink fedilink source parent [–] DSN9@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago Denmark is trying to pry open their centralized health records database so Palantir can use it 😂, I mean, you know for uh crime and stuff. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mienshao@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Norway isn’t on this map permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 1 year ago Norway is not EU permalink fedilink source parent
[–] migo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 year ago (2 children) They've been reverting a lot of that Nordic socialism due to the usual anti-immigrant rhetoric permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Natanael@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago And a right wing government here in Sweden relying on a far right party to stay in power, all in favor of heavy surveillance permalink fedilink source parent [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago Social democracy, not socialism permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago And a right wing government here in Sweden relying on a far right party to stay in power, all in favor of heavy surveillance permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago Social democracy, not socialism permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children) I‘m not surprised in the slightest given who governs these countries nowadays. They‘re far more right than your average EU country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) Weirdly, social democrat Ylva Johansson proposed the first chat control bill. https://sv.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chat_Control I don't think it's fair to blame the right in this case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) In the end of the day it‘s the wealthy & powerful VS us. You are also not a socialist if you propose something like this. Simple as. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 year ago Yes I agree. I suspect they were tricked by some higher ups in EU to put the bill forwards as being a socialist idea, selling it to a wider crowd. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) Weirdly, social democrat Ylva Johansson proposed the first chat control bill. https://sv.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chat_Control I don't think it's fair to blame the right in this case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) In the end of the day it‘s the wealthy & powerful VS us. You are also not a socialist if you propose something like this. Simple as. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 year ago Yes I agree. I suspect they were tricked by some higher ups in EU to put the bill forwards as being a socialist idea, selling it to a wider crowd. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) In the end of the day it‘s the wealthy & powerful VS us. You are also not a socialist if you propose something like this. Simple as. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 year ago Yes I agree. I suspect they were tricked by some higher ups in EU to put the bill forwards as being a socialist idea, selling it to a wider crowd. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 year ago Yes I agree. I suspect they were tricked by some higher ups in EU to put the bill forwards as being a socialist idea, selling it to a wider crowd. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] themagzuz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago afaik denmark isn't just in favor, but they're also responsible for pushing the legislation higher on the agenda after it was dropped last time. i think it's because the current ruling coalition consists of the "social democrat party" (actually just red flavored populist centerish party) in an alliance with the "moderate party" (centrist flavored center-right wing party) and the liberal (as in libertarianism) party (center-right/right/conservative party), so basically denmark has been under a quite conservative government lately, despite the PM selling the coalition as "across the center" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DSN9@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago Denmark is trying to pry open their centralized health records database so Palantir can use it 😂, I mean, you know for uh crime and stuff. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mienshao@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Norway isn’t on this map permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 1 year ago Norway is not EU permalink fedilink source parent