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Major VAC [Valve's non-kernel anticheat] Live updates leaving cheaters crying (web.archive.org)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/pcgaming@lemmy.ca
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[–] 51 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Rather than outright ban cheaters, it’d be funnier if they are just flagged in the matchmaking system and only ever get matched with other cheaters from that point forward.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    VAC bans are pretty nasty iirc.

    Your account gets flagged for cheating and you can't play on any official Valve servers for that particular game ever again.

    Also if you family share the owner of the game gets the ban (don't share with people you don't trust).

    Edit: oops it's only for the game you were found cheating on.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    I don't like how companies treat every bad behavior the same way. I get its easier for moderation but they need to hire more humans if they want it to be good. I don't care for cheaters but what if this leads to a ban for having Plex or DS4windows installed? Just plugging my dualsense edge controller in windows does jackshit for enabling festures.

    Kernel level anticheat sucks for everyone, not just the cheaters. Especially since they get so damn hostile over linux support for no reason.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Why the hell would Plex get you banned?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    we might get to the point where companies don't want you installing any third party applications if Androids direction is a sign. so long as companies don't want to hire human moderation I don't see how kernel anticheat will fix cheaters. This is what companies think blocking installing apps with features like windows smartscreen accomplish but that is full of shit. Why else are cheaters still running rampant.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Along that line of thinking, I'd be nice if there were a "cheating allowed" sandbox option. A VAC enabled game mode where cheating is explicitly allowed. Cheat in it, no harm done, people get to experiment, VAC gets to learn about potential cheating methods they hadn't considered, and nobody gets banned. Do it outside the sandbox and down comes the banhammer.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    That's a neat idea, and on the surface sounds good. I am wondering whether there are unseen issues with this type of setup.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    The guy you're commenting is not a hacker or he would know about cheat lobbys and servers. No excuses for cheaters in any way. If they really wanted they can go to cheat lobbys

    Edit: Exactly what it says a server or lobby that let's you cheat specifically for cheaters to not get banned.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Yeah WarRobots did something like that, if they repeatedly cancelled out of a drop-in map because they didn't like what was chosen or that their opponent roster were not easy pickings, then they'd block those users from spawning into games and just match them with each other.

    At some level though you are just against some crazy paid to upgrade person that had no strategy other than a weopon that obliterates you with on shot, and it became unplayable

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