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Britain’s illegal e-bike boom: desperation, delivery drivers – and unthinkable danger (www.theguardian.com)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/micromobility@lemmy.world
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I have 2 e-bikes: a cargo bike, and a folding mountain bike. As per Canadian law they max out at 32km/hr, and can be electric-only or pedal-assist.
Interesting to see differing regulations and enforcement.

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[–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

god the whipsaw of idiocy in this article. opens with UNTHINKABLE DANGER!

One elderly man is injured, badly, leading to his death. But it's what the daughter's saying that should be the fucking headline:

"The government has been far too slow to bring in proper regulations. They should need insurance, and a registration plate, be identifiable."

You're not going to stop the tech from existing; if it exists people will try to get it. Better to legislate rules for it's safe use then you can go after the lawbreakers.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    "The government has been far too slow to bring in proper regulations. They should need insurance, and a registration plate, be identifiable."

    Nah, this justs adds a barrier to entry for people who aren't total assholes, and does nothing to stop assholes.

    We have insurance, registration, licencing, and VIN numbers for cars. Guess what causes unthinkable danger? Car drivers. And hit-and-runs have become increasingly common.

    The solution won't be easy without massively affectingly normal people, who want/need a non-car way of getting around.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children)

    oh yeah don't need rules regs and enforcement, just fewer assholes

    GOOD LUCK WITH THAT PLAN YOU NUMPTY. If there were a feasible way to reduce world asshole levels we would have crashed that science program like the manhatten project.

    'just make fewer assholes' pfft

    if that was possible I wouldn't have had to make THIS FUCKING REPLY

    jfc

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Damn, I think you missed my point.

    You can't disproportionately impact vulnerable groups of people by setting up artificial barriers for something like an ebike.

    If we're talking about the supercharged ones, then most places already have laws around those, because they are considered something more than a basic ebike.

    But if none of this is being enforced, you're just making it easier for assholes and much harder for regular people who just want to get around cheaply and easily.

    And my point still stands: driving causing a significant amount of harm, and those vehicles are being controlled by licenced drivers with vehicle registration and insurance.

    Trying to force the same on micromobility devices is just backwards.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    One elderly man is injured, badly, leading to his death. But it’s what the daughter’s saying that should be the fucking headline:

    “The government has been far too slow to bring in proper regulations. They should need insurance, and a registration plate, be identifiable.”

    thanks for restating my premise all over. this convo is done.

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