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Hamas calls for UN action as Israel escalates brutal bombardment of Gaza (www.aljazeera.com)
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[–] -4 points 1 year ago (13 children)

As as they've inched toward that in the past, Hamas built up and then attacked. Yes, Israel acts horribly, but Hamas make it impossible to find any peaceful solution unless they are eradicated.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

    Israel has the obligation to end settler colonialism unconditionally. A free palestine with an army will destroy hamas

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I think you're a bit delusional there. The people of Gaza support Hamas.
    And although I disparage recent settler activities by Israel, their entire existence could be seen as settler colonialism, just like the U.S. or almost all other countries if you go back far enough. So I don't think Israel has any obligation there.
    If you think the people of Gaza would kick out Hamas if they could, why don't they welcome Israel to do the same?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    The International Court of Justice (ICJ) advisory opinion delivered on July 19, 2024, which determined that Israel's occupation of Palestinian territories, including East Jerusalem, is unlawful under international law. The ICJ ruled that Israel must end the occupation, dismantle settlements, pay reparations to the Palestinian people, and cease discriminatory policies

    So why israel has to end occupation unconditionally

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Well technically, Israel didn't sign the Rome Statute, so no. And there are a lot of parties in the area that aren't following the rules. You can't just pick one side and insist they get pummeled by following the rules when their adversaries don't. I would certainly wish Israel would take the moral high ground, but instead they seem to have decided to go down to the gutter and fight Hamas at its level - and I find that very regrettable and sad.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Well technically, Israel didn't sign the Rome Statute, so no.

    Did Hamas?

    Of course, the world is not a nice place. At the end of the day, Israel can do whatever they want to do with the territories they decided to occupy away from the people that lived there. But don't come in here all surprised about the reaction to it, or talking about "Israel" and "moral high ground" in the same sentence.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeVy4SHJx8c

    "It must have been a stray Palestinian bullet."

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago

    You just put 'moral high ground' and 'Israel' in the same sentence as much as I did.
    I won't be surprised; both sides are stupidly stubborn and both side are evil and violent. Right now Isreal has the means to be more evil and more violent. In the past whether on their own volition or to secure international support, they have not gone full on to wipe out their adversaries so I think they did somewhat take the slightly less low road. They are taking a different approach now and it's horrible. I don't know if it will make the eventual response even more horrible, or if it will delay it enough that from Israel's perspective it will be worth it. I can only hope the current Israeli government gets kicked out of power and some sort of peace deal can be made.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    You are dilusional genocide supporter. The people of gaza support anybody who retaliate to israeli terrorism so once occupation end hamas is done it will lose all support and will be fough by an palestinian army

    Why are using dumb word like could everybody know building settlements in settler colonialism

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    Fuckin "inched towards" what?

    Can I move my family into your house and attack family members of yours and drive them out whenever we want to take over an additional room, sending you to live in the basement now? Shoot your kids for sport even when you're in your own part? Set fire to parts of the house and take your belongings any time we want? And then say we're "inching towards" leaving you alone in the portion of the house that's left (while we wander through it at random at all times), and so you're not allowed to do anything to us in the meantime? Get the fuck out of here with all this fuckin' nonsense.

    "I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?" -David Ben-Gurion

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    There's been attempts toward peace in the past. The big one was when Gaza was given autonomy to elect their own government ... and they chose Hamas. Yes Israel generally acts horribly, but it's been both Palestinians and Israelis that have scuttled efforts to peace in the past,

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    What do you think Ben-Gurion's diagnosis would be, as to why attempts towards peace in the past have failed?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Dunno. He might support the current efforts, as you pointed out - he understood that Palestinians would never accept Israel's existence.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    That's not what he said, although it's very similar. What was it about Israel's existence specifically that he identified as the problem? I'm not sure why you wouldn't know this, he was extremely specific about it and I just quoted it to you.

    Edit: I'll give an even broader hint. If Israel existed in Africa, would that be okay with them? What about if Israel existed in Thailand? Would that be okay? So what is it specifically that the Palestinians have a problem with, about its existence, that makes it different from those specific scenarios?

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