When having to admit their fault the moderator started looking for arbitrary reasons to ban me. Such as not using the exact terminology of the Amnesty report. Which does not call it genocide.


The moderator is also watching user votes, and calling out people not voting with him.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

    Stop shitstirring. This post is about your shitty behavior, not my mod actions.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    The shitty behavior was pinging an instance admin in an unrelated thread to accuse them of being a tankie for downvoting a comment. And what's also shitty imo is claiming that folks who think the whole Uyghur genocide in China is massively overblown by the West are all tankies. It's entirely possible to believe China is a hugely authoritarian State and also that the Uyghur "genocide" claims are mostly overblown and misrepresented by the West. I'm no China fan, but they certainly aren't bombing the shit out of the Uyghurs or peppering civilians with grenades dropped from drones, like US-backed Israel is. You guys love the lesser evil argument, so to put it in a way you will understand: many folks think China is the lesser evil compared to the US, and that doesn't make those folks tankies. It just means they recognise that the list of shitty things the US has done in the past 50 years far, far outweighs the list of shitty things that China has done in the same period.

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    When it comes to atrocity, there’s no ‘lesser evil’ or justification or differentiation for it. There’s no excuse at all; that’s why they’re atrocities. I don’t care who they come from, if they hurt people, I don’t like them.

    Exactly. So why rage at anarchists when fighting authoritarian states is literally our whole thing? It's just because we are also highly critical of the US and the Dems in particular, because they are always banging on about being the "lesser evil" like its some sort of gotcha. To be clear, if I haven't been already, I 100% condemn China's actions towards the Uyghurs. Is it technically a genocide? Depends what definition you're working with, but to my mind it meets the definition. Meanwhile the Dems have consistently voting with Trump to keep arming Israel, and there is no sign of them changing their position. So what irks me and others is the double standard. Most Democrat representatives have repeatedly denied Gaza is a genocide, and continue to do so, but I don't see you banning people who attempt to downplay the role of the US in that genocide as being tankies.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I don’t care about the US. It’s an evil country and a third-world one at that. The world would be a better place if the government were to collapse.

    Well, we agree on that at least.

    If you read my comment, you’d know the reason why I pinged, which was to lead up to my complaint about this community. That this community isn’t actually about moderator misconduct but instead a way to attack others based on their views, or in my case, just making shit up about my views despite me clarifying what they are.

    Anyone can read the previous posts in this community and form their own opinion on that. As a community mod I'm not the arbiter of truth in this community. I have my own opinions and I share them, along with everyone else. I don't apologise for that. But I'd say in 9/10 cases the community sentiment towards posters is very much aligned with my own. You just seem to be aggrieved that the community has deemed you to be the PTB in this case. It's clear to me (and obviously to others judging by the comments) that you hate leftists a lot more than the right wingers who frequent your community, who you seem to get along with just fine. And that fact you claim anarchists are tankies tells me all I need to know about your political literacy.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Which is in violation of human rights

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (27 children)

    They said China's foreign policy and meddling toward Myanmar was a better example of Chinese imperialism than your example. Maybe you are confused about what imperialism is?

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (26 children)

    Do you think China is imperialist?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (25 children)

    Wtf is this, a tankie purity test? With respect to Myanmar, yes. But in general, much less so than any other superpower. They have used economic imperialism quite a bit, as have all economic superpowers, but that's quite different compared to literally colonizing countries like nearly every Western state has done. They have also supported Russia's imperialist invasion of Ukraine, So my qualified answer is yes to some degree, but I definitely wouldn't say imperialism is one of their defining characteristics, particularly when you look at the scale of their imperialist characteristics compared to basically any western state. What they are though is highly authoritarian towards their own people, and as an anarchist that's what I find most problematic about the Chinese state.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (24 children)

    Just doing the same as what your community is actively doing to me in this very thread. And what your community constantly does to others. You can handle it.

    You do realise China has a history of colonisation as well, right? Every country has a history of colonisation, that's how countries are formed. How about Tibet? Or Hong Kong? Or how they view Taiwan?

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    So what are you going to do about this community's brigading and about the tankies within this thread? Last time I checked, denying rapes and being openly supportive of Hamas isn't an anarchist position. It's also a violation of the code of conduct, so I wonder why you haven't taken moderator action yet.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (21 children)

    Lol are you talking about cryptagion, one of the most vocal tankie haters on our instance? Yep, definitely a tankie because [checks notes] he supports Hamas in their struggle against their warmongering neighbour and refutes obvious Israeli war propaganda? Sure bro, keep stretching the definition of what a tankie is.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (19 children)

    Would’ve figured the death of innocents is always bad regardless of who they are.

    It is always bad, nobody is arguing otherwise.

    But let’s shelf that for now and focus on the brigading and how this community seems to have lost it’s purpose, which is discussing whether or not a ban was justified, not about the views of the moderator.

    What's your definition of brigading? Is it when nobody agrees with you?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    So brigading is when our community members vote on posts?

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (16 children)

    Yes, when members come from another thread into the original to manipulate via voting, commenting and derailing the thread.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    Do you mean derailing? That's what's you're doing by trying to make this post about this community instead of about you and your turbolib friends. Even PJ doesn't stoop to calling us tankies, because although we seem to disagree about some things, he's not a complete idiot.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Stop dodging. What are you going to do about the vote and comment manipulation?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (11 children)

    Honestly, go back to sjw if you can't handle our users' opinions conflicting with your own. There is no brigading. This is a dbzer0 community. Of course our members are gonna downvote asshats when they see one.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    You're deliberately twisting. Those screenshots I sent are from the MoG community, the SJW instance, in the original thread. They did not exist prior to this community and the YPTB thread.

    Your members went from this community and this thread, into my community and its thread.

    What are you going to do about the vote and comment manipulation?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

    That's called the Streisand effect, look it up.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    What are you going to do about the vote and comment manipulation?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I don't accept your premise. If you have any evidence of "manipulation" or sock puppet accounts then please provide it.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Why are you making wild claims just because a few users went to your thread (you know, the thread that was reported here that OBVIOUSLY people would have gone and looked at and engaged with) and downvoted your sorry ass? That's not brigading, it's just normal user behaviour.

    None of your arguments here have been in good faith. You've just strutted around peppering our users with a bunch of accusatory questions as though you're some sort of lameass Joe McCarthy impersonator. Did you learn that on voat.com? You don't even seem to have the vaguest clue what anarchism means as a political ideology, or how completely ridiculous it is to be calling us tankies. Looks to me like you're just stirring up shit with our instance and on that basis I'm not going to bother engage with you any further.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm not banned, and the idea that I'm a compulsive liar is laughable. I guess it hurts that I come with receipts when I make claims?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    I was temp-banned. The only awful experience I had was the temp-ban, which was over the admins deciding that downvoting things you disagree with is, apparently, against the rules (when they want it to be).

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Wait is that true? They banned you for downvoting?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

    Downvoting comments I disagree with was considered "downvote trolling"

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (6 children)

    Can you link the thread so we can read through it?

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    I'll give it a read, but I'm a little unsure as to the context going on

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Have you thought about posting that to this community? Seems like a good example of PTB

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Nah. The only reason I came to this thread was because I was pinged. I generally stay out of dbzer0 comms at this point. As the audience here shows, Dbzer0 comms are quite alright with genocide and atrocity denial these days, which is unfortunate. I don't remember it being like that at first, but maybe I just didn't see it.

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