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[–] 41 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I engage with these people a lot and they just deny and say the strangest things as a response.
“Oh yeah, who started the war then! How dare Trump try and save Ukraine and Russian lives”

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They just keep it going and going, it doesn’t matter what you cite or reference. Like what do we say?

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    In real life?

    Russia invaded Ukraine after annexing Crimea. Russia stole Ukraine land and then invaded what was left.

    Then, walk away.

    Online?

    Russia invaded Ukraine after annexing Crimea and then provide links.

    This isn't for the online person, but for people that come after. Don't comment any further.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Not after annexing Crimea. They invaded Ukraine when they stole Crimea.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I agree, but make sure to not make things more complicated for the recepients of this message. Fuzzing about details is a great way to make people think that the overall message is flawed, incomplete or even wrong.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I've given up. When I realize I'm talking to a MAGAt, just disengage as gracefully as possible. If I can't get away, try and change the subject. If it's in a group setting, I might slap a fact-dick on the table once to make a point of opposition as a signal to the group.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I've never had luck. It's like reasoning with a toddler and arguing with a brick wall and trying to have discourse with a toy you pull the string on and it just repeats the same 5 things over and over.

    They're fucking idiots that have been bred and brainwashed to be scared and fearful and lash out. They're like an angry stray dog, except I believe dogs can be rehabilitated - I don't know if I'm convinced of the same for these people.

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