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[–] 140 points 1 year ago (15 children)

A french YouTuber (Bolchegeek) calls that the Magneto syndrome : the writers make the bad guys make actually good points when criticizing the supposed "good guys", but then proceed to completely discredit their character by making them do something obviously evil. He argued that it's a way to pretend like you're making a progressive movie that questions society, while still reinforcing the status quo, and to basically say "Don't be fooled by those radicals, they may seem convincing but they're actually just out for blood"

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    “Don’t be fooled by those radicals, they may seem convincing but they’re actually just out for blood”

    I think this is the entire underlying propoganda in Batman villains and that only the rich good guy by choice can save us!

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    #PoisonIvyDidNothingWrong

    Capeshit in general is inherently right wing, though, if you stop to think about it. The foundational premise is the notion that if only this Great Man™ steps up to punch problems away the world will be a better place for it.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Depends on the target age demographic and how organized the Heroes are. In the MCU, the Avengers were operating investigation and acting in foreign countries without consent. I was in agreement that Sokovia Accords were reasonable and if a hero had an issues with "taking an order they disagreed with", they thought they would be forced to compile when every civilized military has a conscientious objector clause. In Justice League Unlimited, I pissed off a lot of fans when I said that Waller was right to be concerned that the JL were operating a space laser that could be used on the earth. I don't like how writers always give her really bad plans though.

    Justice Gang stopping an invasion? Now that was cathartic to see.

    Some writers understand the rightwing problem with superhereos and either avoid it or address it. Some people give Batman some billionaires to fight. Other times, they reinforce the rightwing problem with whatever the fuck Frank Miller was doing.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago*

    Those true evils often hide their motivation behind a "justifiable evil". It's basically modern politics. Most often in display in the US, but infects many, if not most, governments around the world.

    Just because someone presents a supposedly logical and rational argument, doesn't necessarily mean either that they believe it, or that the argument is actually based in factual analysis.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    xmen97 played this well. Magneto was angry but otherwise good. And then he snapped. But it wasn't a long con, he was reformed. And then someone tried to genocide his adopted nation and he snapped. Can't really blame him for that.

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  • [+] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)
  • [–] [S] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    What? I’ve only heard Trump say shit like crime is out of control when statistically it’s the opposite.

    I rarely if ever hear him address real problems.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    It's kind of a broken clock / twice per day situation. He says so much shit that some of it inevitably ends up being right. Some years ago he said something along the lines of quarterly business reporting requirements being a major cause of short sightedness in publicly traded companies. But then he never did anything with that, and he said like 10 other fucked up things that day.

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