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"Bernie Bros" (lemmy.world)
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[+] -11 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

They never supported Bernie's policies. It wasn't very many, but there were a bunch of Bernie Bros in 2016 who switched from him to Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson. There is very little policy overlap between the two aside from being contrarian. That's all they were doing: being contrarian without any actual policy ideas.

However, the vast majority of Bernie primary voters did vote for Hillary in the general that year.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    there were a bunch of Bernie Bros in 2016 who switched from him to Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson. There is very little policy overlap between the two aside from being contrarian

    Only if you insist on viewing politics through a left-right axis and ignore the authoritarian-libertarian axis. Or if you're weirdly using "contrarian" as a synonym for "not authoritarian," which (considering the status-quo candidates) I guess makes sense.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The political compass is an only slightly better model than the one that's based on 18th century French parliament seating arrangements.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Please contribute something beneficial to the conversation, or at least interesting. Your pedantry is obnoxious.

    Always going with the pro-big business candidates is what spiraled the divide out until a narcissistic rat bastard scooped up the populist vote.

    Hillary was terminally unlikable. This was illustrated in polls, primaries, and a general election. The establishment DNC is trash and is not intended to counter fascism, it is funded by the same people/orgs.

    It is absolutely the "lesser of two evils", but will not be part of any true structural change, let alone the revolutionary kind that must happen to overcome the current regime.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago

    It's not pedantry to say a broken model is being replaced by a slightly less broken model. You'll get bad results with either one.

    In this case, it leads to thinking that two candidates on opposite sides of the left-right axis are similar just because they share a place on the libertarian-authoritarian axis. You still have to make a left-right jump which shows you weren't well grounded on that axis.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Nevertheless, it does expose a commonality between Sanders and Johnson that you denied.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago

    It's still jumping between a left-right axis while staying on the libertarian-authoritarian axis. It shows you were never grounded on that axis in the first place.

    A better way to think about political affiliations is a big graph of nodes connected by edges. The downside is that your political map will end up looking like an Always Sunny meme. However, it's a really powerful tool that explains what Horseshoe Theory is getting at without trying to contort the whole thing.

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