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[–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

My point is that even socialism needs checks and balances. And everything you said applies even to Socialism.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It doesn’t because the power and needs of the many are aligned in socialism and that’s not the case in capitalism

    Within capitalism you need checks and balances so that the ruling class aka capitalist class doesn’t put their “needs” (more like desires”) above the needs of the majority

    Within socialism the ruling class is the majority by definition they can’t exploit the system in their favor because that’s literally how it’s supposed to work.

    So no, it’s very different

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I get that in a utopian society, you are correct. But it’s not impossible for somebody to gain power and abuse this system. The socialist society would need to set up rules to prevent this from happening.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Ofc but those rules are there by design and are natural to the system

    If the many have the control then it is hard for any one individual to gain control and rig the system for himself, because the many can kick him out

    With capitalism you don’t have this natural control. You put in checks and balances that will fail eventually as they always did and then you’re screwed.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    If the many have the control then it is hard for any one individual to gain control and rig the system for himself, because the many can kick him out

    Have you never witnessed “the many” being manipulated by a small number of people into doing things that are against their best interest? There is nothing “natural to the system” that protects against this. It is just hope that the many will stay aligned with the goal of the system. And that each generation keeps this alignment.

    You build your system on a set of rules, but then you need to maintain that system. If you don’t, the system will warp.

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