This is a trackball that is very interesting to me for the mobility aspect as well as the idea of not having to move your hands much. Seems to now be for sale on Amazon in Europe so I decided to add it to my ball collection even if the shop is not the one I would use given good alternatives.

I don't care for the trackball that much, but I wouldn't mind a laptop nipple on my keyboard.

Yeah. The images of this thing next to the spacebar are tempting me (in spite of my past preference for the keyboard corner). Maybe I'll get one of these when it releases.

Hmmm.... Maybe.... But no. It's the youth who are wrong.

The trackball belongs in the upper corner of the keyboard on the side of the dominant hand.

I do not see why you could not place it where you want it.

Exciting times!

Fair point. I use my keyboard right at the edge of my desk, I'm thinking a trackball embedded in the wood right before the spacebar, facing out, might be the way to go.

You need to be able to reach it without stretching or moving from home row or else or kind of defeats the purpose I think.

As a diehard Vi user who rarely leaves the home row; I also care how far my hand travels from the home row, and back - so this trackball would still an upgrade for me.

We had these in the 90s. They were fantastic.

We're long overdue to bring back keyboard attached trackballs.

This seems like the next best thing, except they paid no attention to prior art.

The trackball belongs in the upper corner of the keyboard on the side of the dominant hand.

The young engineers these days don't even know how to attach a trackball to a keyboard correctly...

If anyone needs me, I will be outside yelling at the Cloud. (Because I am old and things were better back in my day.)

Edit: I gotta admit, those shots of it next to the spacebar look promising, actually...now that I've had my Werther's original to bring my blood sugar up.

Prob better for the less than 100% keeblers (no num pad).

(Nape non-pro)

Thanks. I envisioned something that went to the right of the num pad.

I feel like that still only works for people with larger hands. You need to be able to reach it without stretching or moving from home row or else or kind of defeats the purpose I think.

That's not an angle that looks natural to hit with your thumb for most people.

Here it is being held horizontally against a keyboard, and that way it makes more sense: your hands can use the trackball without ever leaving the keyboard. If the trackball is held and located in a position that one can expect from a trackball or mouse, it doesn't look really ergonomic.

https://www.yankodesign.com/2026/01/08/keychrons-nape-pro-turns-your-mechanical-keyboard-into-a-laptop-style-trackball-rig-hands-on-at-ces-2026/

Would like to see some other angles of this, but no matter how you look at it, that does not look comfortable.

Still no Linux support, what a shame. The hardware looks very nice, though.

TIL trackballs are still getting made.

Looks like HAL9000 head on.

My elecom finger trackball is hanging on for dear life as it now has intemittent mouse double click and I'm tired of the crap power switch. Yes I could use wired but I think the port's damaged.

Been looking at ploopy adept (the one that's pike this Kensington) but am wary with no scroll wheel at all.

I can get all the scroll wheels I want and seems to have extra buttons that I'll miss from the elecom if I move to the ploopy.

Edit: no mention of sensor DPI though in the product page

Kensington was my first trackball, I loved it... until it died. It was replaced with the same model, and when that one died the only replacement I could find was Logitech. Now I moved to elecom, but would give a new Kensington a spin!

Edit: however after watching the video, I would not try this model. I have never liked this design, I prefer using my thumb to move the ball.

I'm pretty sure that that's a USB-C port at 0:21. Unless it's only for charging, I imagine that it can at least be used in wired mode (unless you specifically want a wired-only device).

checks Kensington site

Yeah, sounds like it can be used in wired mode.

https://www.kensington.com/p/products/electronic-control-solutions/trackball-products/expert-mouse-tb800-eq-multi-connection-trackball/#Product-specs

Includes USB-C® cable for in-use charging and wired connection.

EDIT: On the same page:

Connectivity: 2.4GHz USB Receiver, Bluetooth®, Wired USB-C®, Wireless

We're really getting a new trackball from Kensington, I can't believe it!

I sure hope there's a wired version, though.

I'm a huge Kensington Expert Mouse fan. I've owned dozens of them for the past 3 decades and I have 5 in constant use, at home and at work. I use no other pointing device - apart from my MNT Reform laptop's trackball, whose buttons I remapped in the firmware to be like the Expert Mouse's.

I will most definitely get that new one. Thanks for putting it on my radar!

Follow-up to this...

I bought a Ceratech mouse (mou-image-rf-blk) just to try them out. What arrived was branded "Accuratus", and the Ceratech website seems to carry the same branding now too, so it seems like they are going through a rebrand.

The mouse itself feels a bit cheap. The battery cover is a bit flimsy and feels like it might break if not careful with it, and although it clips back in OK it just feels a bit dodgy. There is a slot for the receiver under the battery cover. It slots in sideways, it's not particularly snug, and it's a bit fiddly to get out unless you have something to lever it out with.

I put my first impressions behind me and gave it a try for a couple of weeks, but it didn't get much better. It randomly seems to lag occasionally. It's so slight that the first few times it happened I wasn't sure if it was my imagination, but it's happened enough times now that I'm sure it's not my imagination. The scroll wheel also does something similar: intermittently it just seems to miss a step. For the last few days, the left-click button has started sticking a bit. If it's not been clicked for a few minutes, the first click just seems to stick and needs a bit more pressure to activate.

After giving it a good try I have stopped using it because it's so janky. It's not very expensive for a mouse, but it's not particularly good value either. After trying the mouse, I would not consider buying one of their trackballs unless I found some compelling reviews that suggest they are built better. This is a real shame, because I was really hoping for a quality newcomer to the trackball market!

The steam controller actually had an option for the large trackpads to emulate a trackball (small haptic feedback), it felt really good and responsive and I kept using it for that one reason when playing on my TV PC