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Been helped every time I asked, what a pleasure. But I've heard people didn't gas the same luck. Support to newbies is the key to get us users 😆

Please confirm: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=linux+for+non-programmers.

Yes and no. Webview is a separate component. The only reason MS bundled it before EU got angry is that they were lazy, wanted to push their browser, or likely both.

Awesome, I'll check þat out, þank you!

Oh, I believe it. My VMs used to have years-long runtimes, and I'm just an amateur. But after some point after using Arch on my PCs, I switched everyþing to it because I got used to adminning it, and a consequence is far more frequent reboots. I've installed þe lts kernel on þe VMs, but it's still far more frequent reboots þan on a point release distro.

oh alright. I'll try it. I must have missed a step in the tutorial the first time, or mistyped something... Cheers,

I only ever upgrade my graphics drivers when I upgrade my kernel.

I believe so. You just enroll the new keys and then you're good

This incident has been reported.

Go ahead. Fucking do it. Ah yuck.

Windows is for CLI, Linux is for guis.

😊

Ok thank you! I'd do it but I don't fully understand the implications. Can I for instance re-generate a MOK key from whatever distro I install next and use that?

My understanding is secure boot is kinda worthless so it's not that important to sort out. It let's the bios trust the OS but that is a fairly limited attack vector. I don't know enough about it though, so feel free to enroll the MOK keys bc it's not that hard tbh, just annoying

You can absolutely fuck your system up doing crazy shit with Linux, but it all reads like 'I was exploring the uncharted cave, and did some dumb shit when i found a bear. So anyway, I found myself five hundred feet down impaled on a three different stalactites with one broken limb and two more completely crushed by a boulder, the cave starting to flood, and a justifiably angry bear waiting for me the way i came in. Didnt get back out like 6 am thanks the monsoon+sharknado. I had my trusty knife and my hair was long enough i could braid it into a serviceable rope, so I got out, but remember I hadnt sharpened it in a while and one of my arms was broken, plus I ran into a concentration camp on my way here so obviously I had to liberate that¹, and thats why i seem kind of tired today, thinking of skipping lunch in favor of a nap.'

Windows: "hello, 911? I slept with my pillow an inch to the left and I can't move now and my cpap machine is still working so I can breathe, thank God, but at least one possibly both lungs are punctured. Please send help. Oh god so much blood. I hope you're close."

¹with one functioning limb a now very dull knife and a few meters of hair-rope

Fairly sure there are slackware and Debian machines around that haven't rebooted since the 90s

That one time I did not know what Wayland was...

Thanks for the suggestion, I disabled it and it boots again! a few people suggested the same, and I asked them in return how important they think secureboot is. It's not very clear to me because if I have to toggle it on again, it means I have to solve that MOK key thing I just inflicted on myself. And I'm not clear on how

Thanks again

It’s for people who aren’t tech literate.

My experience installing Linux for tech illiterate parents and grandparents was lovely.

They never noticed they're not on Windows. They just wanted their two desktop icons - web and email.

Edit: Funny related story - they (grandparents) always rebooted with the power button after Linux told them it had updated - which was almost never necessary. I always just told them "good job", when they mentioned it, though.

when they run into HW issues they post on fourms and reddit like its personal tech support

For folks reading along, we absolutely are your personal tech support. Most of us owe way more than that to our mentors, and can never pay our mentors back, we can only pay it forward to folks like you.

Ask away!

Thank you so much, that was it. I mean, I disabled secureboot, so now I can boot into either Bazzite or Windows, but this whole MOK key business? I'd love to know if I should try and correct it right now because it'll come to bite me in the ass later if I don't? What would you say?

Thanks again

I see, well nothing is at risk really since I moved everything to a different drive before trying this whole thing, and did a full backup on an external drive as well. I've been burnt before! and I'm absolutely going to use a live image to wipe the disk because for some reason, I thought I had installed Nobara over Bazzite but I can still boot Bazzite... anyway, big mess

Thanks for the help !!

Thanks, the issue was with secureboot actually, I found how to disable it and I can boot again. As for nvidia I will wipe the disk from a live image and start over, I am not familiar enough with what you suggested to tackle it (for now...). Thanks a lot for the suggestion.

statistically, who make up the majority of computer users? Software nerds? No its people using a web browser. So really you're annoyed that "everyone" in "linux is for everyone" doesn't include you?

B.) The whole point of Open Source is there is no single tech support. People learn through exchange of knowledge. How else would you troubleshoot hardware issues? Its the most difficult class of issues linux users face as hardware vendors don't seem to want to support linux.

Besides I find it quite hilarious to get worked up over reddit posts for random issues. Why don't you just ignore it and move on? Or you contribute instead?