This was not on my bingo card

Well, yes, exactly! You shouldn’t trust it.

If this was any other computer program that could execute arbitrary system commands unreliably, standard procedure would be to sandbox the living snot out of it.

It’s baffling to me that “AI” is somehow an excuse to ignore this. Hence that’s exactly what I mean: I’d want rock solid guarantees of containerization, and granular scoping.

Tell that to mozilla

I wouldn't trust an agent outside of a capabilities-based OS, like if Genode was ready for production. I don't even use AI at all, but if I was actually using agents, I'd want guarantees that not only do you not have access to certain things, you cannot properly conceive of how to access them, it is utterly beyond the agent.

Wouldn't an ideal agentic OS be entirely CLI? Or MCP based interface? With a fucking chat like? What?

Wouldn’t switching to Nix nuke existing Omarchy installs?

This is a microcosm of why this is so perplexing to me. If Alibaba really wants an agenic OS, there are far better starting points than Omarchy.

But money is just money?

Seems like their AIs had some of the same ideas you're having here, since about a week or two ago they had an issue open about moving the basis of Omarchy over to Nix.

That got buried somehow, cannot find it in Github anymore.

...Let's play devil's advocate.

Isn't it a terrible architecture for agents?

The ideal distro would be:

• A strictly immutable base configuration.

• "Rings" of access privilege everywhere, enforced across the whole OS. Something like Qubes OS.

• Top tier, security audited, prepackaged setups for vllm, llama.cpp, various agenic frameworks and such, something better than a massive docker install for every one.

• Multiple versions of patched/optimized Python akin to Clear Linux or CachyOS.

• A kernel/scheduler tuned for compute and low IO latency.

• Good Nvidia/rocm/Intel support, which Arch does provide, admittedly.

• Simple, minimalistic desktop UI that is easy for an agent to interpret in a screenshot, and easy for it to operate. Ideally with integrated hooks.

• And an “easy” headless mode for less overhead

• Prepackaged, open source agenic browsers and embeddings servers.

• Links and guides for more niche machine learning/data processing projects, instead of to the most popular ones that already have official guides.

Omarchy has... precisely none of that? Except for what in inherits from Arch.

Lack of any containerization in particular is one reason OpenClaw (the previous Twitter AI fad) was such a flaming mess.

Damn didn't know Alibaba was fascist

They claim to have had 150k installations 11 months ago. Probably millions now, who knows how many stuck with it. Judging by comments on that one social media everybody loves here, everyone is using it.

Steam still counts them as Arch Linux so cannot use that to get more accurate info. https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/13586

DHH's enemies are gonna have a great time cracking all those installations then I guess.

Seriously?

I remember reading somewhere that DHH offered them money but they politely declined.

So I guess we cannot whine anymore that he doesn't give money upstream.

I haven't really watched their progress, but I think it must be a bit more by now. Over 7000 commits, 525 contributors.

So what are they actually doing with all this money they’ve raised?

Like, why all the sponsors? We can look at Mitchell Hashimoto and Ghostty to see that these rich CEOs can retire and build freely. I don’t get it.

AI + Nazi = huge funding

Yeah...

I've just grown a thick skin over those kind of slopper accusations. Just ignore it; there's no point in engaging with it here on Lemmy.

Besides, I'd bet money Lupert indirectly uses more corporate "AI" than you or me and doesn't even know it. That kind of hate is exactly what the AI giants want, as it will squash their competition and create willful ignorance around their products.

Well that sucks. They should be so happy that their API is being used on a platform where they don't currently have their own applications.

Qobuz told them that their api is private and only available to paying developers. I assume qobuz threatened legal action.

Yes I know, I've recieved some notices that I expertly ignored. Doesn't sound like too much of a problem, just convert the old format config files to new format config files.

Nothing against Hyperland, but be advised that iirc, there are currently working on things that break config files (what omarchy sums up to be)

If you want something quick-ish, KDE could work as a replacement, granted you use the keyboard shortcuts.

Wait... You're not OP...

Worked IT in a school. I'm glad to see there are teachers who can keep things working in a pinch.

3m in AI world is literally nothing. You could spend that in a few days training a model. 3m is basically a token amount for marketing purposes. This is not a serious deal in any way.