[–] 1 point 8 months ago*

There's also Chinese datacenters. China will be wanting to compete without depending on foreign companies. And apparently the Chinese companies have been ordered to prioritize sales to datacenters. Plus Apple is talking to them about a potential deal, so the changes of us peasants getting RAM that way seem slim too.

The only thing that might help is an AI crash, but that will cause a massive ripple of economic damage so none of us will have any money to buy RAM anyway.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    It is actually the whole problem.

    Oligarchs have too much money in a world that's already edging to end of abundant resources, but they absolutely want to see their wealth keep growing as if it could go on indefinitely. Tüey already squeezed workers and taxes, there is not much more margin there. There is pretty much no business left that can promise past returns, except single shots based on governments corruption.

    Being not half as smart as they think they are, they got conned by AI startup pitches about giganormic growth opportunities, and poured a shit ton of money on them. Now the con-men need to entertain them for as long as they can to suck them as much as they can.

    Everybody else is paying the price.

    Oligarchs are just as dumb as any random person. They shouldn't exist to start with. No one deserve is worth much money and worthy of the power it grants.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    It's not so much about being short-sighted as being greedy con-artists: the longer they maintain the illusion AI will eventually work and be profitable, the more money in their own pocket.

    They stopped at one year to keep investors on that thin line between a state of too much confidence so they stop investing more and say they poured enough money for AI companies to break even, and the state where they lose hope and cut their losses.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Again, as per Gamers Nexus the Chinese manufacturers have been mandated to prioritise a majority of their production to Chinese data centers, because the Chinese government has its own AI dreams.

    They are not going to be the salvation of the consumers.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I don't think that is what they originally intended. As always it is just trillion dollar corporations chasing shortsighted profits, they are incapable of making such long term plans.

    But that is definitely what they are going to pivot towards when the AI bubble bursts. That will keep the data center circle jerk running for a while longer.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    As per Gamers Nexus the Chinese RAM manufacturers have been mandated by the Chinese government to prioritise the majority of their production to data centers now though. The Chinese government has its own AI dreams.

    So no, they care as little about consumers as the rest of them.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    These short sighted fools are only buying 100% of what computing components being made in the next few years. I've claimed the entire production output of the human race for the next 10,000 years. Get good

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    Well, the purchases they make now from western companies is an incestuous "you scratch my back I'll scratch yours" on-paper only revenue scam.

    Chinese companies would not play ball with that, because for better or worse, China has a MUCH stronger will to rip a company apart if it's behaving irresponsibly, particularly if that irresponsibility is strengthening US companies' hands. So buying from NVidia means market manipulation and ulterior motives for ledgers and stock prices. Buying from a Chinese company means buying the product at something more like a fair market price rather than sweetheart deals, and then also fighting a US government that is actively fighting Chinese chip production and willing to use tariffs and strongarming to enforce it.

    I'm not saying this is exactly how this will shake out, but I am saying it's the only potential place that computer technology has ANY chance of being made for consumers for the next decade or so, so it's them or nothing.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Chinese companies still seem to very much be old-school capitalism - they actually still concentrate on making and selling a product instead of just moving capital around with the customer being an obstacle and excuse.

    This seems very plausible. But I still don't see what is stopping the AI companies to create proxies to buy out as much of the usable product as possible, maybe only leaving DDR3 and older stuff, so while we will still have the chance to buy it, it will still end up being pretty expensive.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Chinese manufacturers would fall outside of the "circlejerk" economy between hardware manufacturers and AI companies, and as such I think AI companies would be less willing to buy from Chinese manufacturers, particularly with Trumpian anti-China policies.

    Even if they didn't, Chinese companies still seem to very much be old-school capitalism - they actually still concentrate on making and selling a product instead of just moving capital around with the customer being an obstacle and excuse.

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