Insane ay? Here’s Crisafulli talking up the power bill savings.

Canavan telling people we need to ‘cUt NeT z3Ro’ yet that cunt drives an EV and has solar, like that other orange headed cunt of a thing working for Rinehart.

enormous tracks

Yeah but we’re looking at the curtains mate. And we just want to sing.

It is not only about quality. But also about warranty, part availability and long time support. Chinese cars has bad records on these. Buying used Chinese car is hardly a sensitive choice. Look to carsales.com.au as example. It is full of MGs which no one willing to buy. So if you buying new car you should plan to scrap it, not sell in 5 years.

Are ducks native? They looks similar enough to Europen one.

First round started off just as everything went to shit. Post-covid landscape is very different and even restarted it's lost a lot of its momentum.

"Chinese crap" you realize a lot of high end engineering and manufacturing is completed in China? If you're looking at buying an item for cents on the dollar, then yes quality will be poor..

How did COVID impact the battery scheme?

We should incentivise all new passenger vehicles imported to be phev,hybrid,ev only.

We should have already been using biofuels with much higher Ex levels.

We should be actively moving towards improving rail through the nation.

We should be installing at least a couple wind turbines at each town.

We should be seriously considering solar thermal stations (for base load power).

Congrats, Aussies! It sounds like the battle isn't over yet over SGARs, but it's an awesome start!

You guys have some of my favorite owls anywhere in the world, so hopefully some numbers can soon start trending upward.

Idiot, cousin-fucking morons in my community are pissed off about this

None of them are actually buying these products, but anything with a benefit to the environment upsets them because their whole identity is tied up in hating anyone more intelligent than they are

And the two-toothed cunts can't understand why I don't go to the local pub...

You can't buy a used EV for under like $25,000 now and those are ten year old Leafs. Nobody's selling.

If you want apples to apples, you're probably looking at a BYD Dolphin for closer to $32,000.

You can tell that they're good cars for a good price by the way the US and EU car industries have been screaming for government protection the last few years.

If you're deadset against buying a Chinese branded EV, I guess you can wait for the Toyota branded EVs with BYD drivetrains that are on their way.

Yeh, one is Toyota other is Chinese crap. Please compare apples with apples. You can find EV with similar prices as ICE on secondary market. But only it means that EV are depreciated faster than ICE which makes it very questionable purchase as new.

I mean, you can buy a BYD Atto 1 for $27k and the cheapest new Toyota I can see is $33k.

All the cars currently on the road can't just be thrown away and replaced with EVs, but new EVs have actually hit and passed price parity now.

For a country with a reputation for being rugged and resilient, people sure do buy the "don't worry everything will be normal again soon, you don't have to change."

so pissed covid fucked the neighbourhood battery scheme in the butt down here in Vic. It was the perfect solution. decentralisation, absorption of excess without needing to upgrade, sharing the wealth.

They've not stopped either, the fossil fuel lobby constantly pillories Chris Bowen as the great enemy now.

But the role out is happening quietly, but quicker than ever. The main impediment was/is the changes to the transmission systems. Its an area I'm so hopeful about for Aus, and I think now justifiably so.

When BP announced they were shutting the Perth refinery, years ago now, I just looked at that and thought has no one at BP or Government/Security services considered the sovereign risk that introduced? Anyway, we're here now.

We have literally every single alternative energy source in insane abundance. Consequently there have been decades of concentrated attacks to put people against them

Doesn't Australia have enormous tracks of unused land and plenty of sunshine? If only there was some kind of proven renewable energy they could use.

Build/Reopen refineries not tanks. We will need petrol for decades to come, they are not going to be wasted.

It will take a while to move to EVs. SO far they are not have economical sense for average person. Prices should go down bellow ICE before we see any noticeable adoption.

to be honest i think this is a problem that will solve itself over time, EV's are just better, not because they're cheaper but because they're faster, quieter, require less maintenance, and in general are just nicer

I read like 98% of people don't go back to ICE after having an EV so I think in the future we might have the same fuel tanks but 90 days worth of supply after we've got majority of cars off of it

I know what you mean. Some farmers in our regional area are starting to come round but overall is much like where you are. There are regional organisations that are educating farmers but it's a slow process. Where possible we must keep bringing the topic up about the positives with people who are not well informed.

welp, not near me, every m^2^ is either cleared for dairy, popies, potatoes or meat cattle and forestry all over the hills, its a toxic green desert with fertiliser trucks running around and 100s of giant pivot irrigators running all summer to speed grass growth for the over stocked paddocks.

its heavily reliant on diesel and fertiliser.

I appreciate it