Real shame he didn't see his son for all that time. He was 8yo when his father left and now he has a 12yo kid himself. That's very sad.

No no 💯 no. Zach sounds like a dick and the others did nothing, making them at least complicit and/or cowardly. You can do better than that.

There's no worth in proving anything to them, no worth at all. Instead, follow your interests, be around people who are good and kind, and build yourself back up. They aren't the whole world.

I was specifically looking for the evidence supporting reduction in litter. I didn't find that.

I'm trying to find where it talks about reduction in litter. I even asked their ai assistant but didn't get it there. Can you see it?

Thanks for the link though, it's a good one and I'll probably read the whole thing today. I've skimmed through most of it, it seems fairly comprehensive.

AFAIK, bottle deposits aren’t for recycling, they’re for reuse (which is better). It’s about providing enough of an incentive to actually get those bottles sorted and delivered back into the supply chain (down to the same brand of drink, if it comes in a distinctive bottle like Coke does) correctly.

They're definitely for recycling here. They get crushed in the machine after they're scanned.

I suppose you could have the municipal recycling people sort bottles for reuse, but then they’d still need to be able to get that deposit to make it worth their while.

Not everything needs to be about money but also the amount of people who don't get their deposit back is actually loads. People are mostly lazy and it's a hassle to get it. Plus you don't get money, you get a receipt and you can only spend it in one shop or your have to go to the till and ask them to change it into cash for you.

If you mean just put bottles in with other waste, then the reason is that people will litter.

I'm talking about the normal practice of household waste pickup. People who litter are still going to litter, they're not thinking about it.

If you mean have bottles with a deposit collected curbside, I’m not sure how your suggestion would work. You’d leave a container filled with valuable goods on the side of the road and not expect it to get stolen?

No, I don't mean that.

You were suggesting a higher value for return but why return at all and not kerbside pickup like with other household waste.

Because it takes up more space in a small house compared to being able to crush up and throw into the recycling bin, like we used to.

Why not kerbside pickup?

In Ireland they do have to retain their shape to be returned for the deposit back. It's a pain.

Nice! This looks so cool, I love their visualisations so far. This might even rival my love for windy com

Text because I'm usually around others and don't want to pollute their peace. Also because I can skim.