also, you cannot be tolerant to intolerant people. any system of beliefs like that is doomed. this is what is happening now.

It's just an endless line of good intentioned rapists.

Yeah, also, I'd like my moral reasoning to have evolved past Hammurabi.

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

I remember being told it makes more sense when you realize it's a part of the social contract. Breaching it prevents you from taking part in it.

The tolerance paradox does not exist. See BeardedSquidwards comment.

So should we just tolerate the intolerant? Cause that's going to end well. We'd still have half a planet with stabbed eyes while they go scot free.

It's a nice quote but doesn't really make sense. The eye for the second eye is the first eye, there's only two eyes involved, not a nonsensical endless chain of eyes. This concept of justice predates the quote.

I'll settle for "anyone accused of any wrongdoing in the Epstein files in any manner."

We can sort through the gritty details afterwards and apologize to the single person that was wrongly accused.

I dunno just making a list for people that are apologetic about it, positive towards it, partial to the acts or on the receiving end of a cashflow would be just insta killable if I was suddenly dictator of the world

Also, just a plain old idiot. Imagine having the magical power to kill anyone undetected and you're like "hooray, I can go after local crooks!". Had Light ever seen a newspaper? Did he know the world outside his city existed? If you aren't starting with and primarily focusing on people globally known are you even trying?

That whole idea is poorly thought out. In the split second of danger presented in the situation where a good guy with a gun could stop something, no one has any idea what is happening or why or to who and the decision must be made in seconds. No wonder good guy with gun doesn't just start blasting. If their goal is to not hurt good people, blasting away is a good way to hurt Innocents.

Not to mention, people don't like getting shot themselves.

You can try but look what happened when we didn't finish off the slavers and the Nazis. They linger on until an orange shitstain comes along and empowers them.

Absolutely I am merely responding with the same level of intellectualism as the original comment.

If we can't even get as far as sometimes violence is necessary and absolutism is a useless philosophy, then there's no point getting into nuance.

I don't think good and bad are that subjective. You can get into the weeds but it can be pretty well boiled down to "treat others the way you want them to treat you" is good and "treat others in a way you wouldn't want them to treat you" is bad. We're social creatures, we have to live in societies, and it's not difficult to determine pro social vs anti social behaviors.

Are you going to apply this logic to the activities which took place on Epstein Island?

Sorry but that's irrelevant. Who personally views themselves as good and bad isn't relevant to how I apply your logic from my perspective.

The danger comes in thinking that everything you do is good simply because you do it.

You shouldn't hurt people if you don't have to but that's not the same as saying that violence should be avoided at all costs and that it's never useful, or even ultimately the lesser evil.

I have a problem with these absolutists the tried to suggest that the situation should never be taken into account and that violence is always bad. It's intellectually dishonest and it's naive.

With no objective good or bad

Where do pedophilia and rape fall in your intellectually lazy, moral relativism argument? What about freeing enslaved people?

Saying there is no objective good or bad only shows your lack of moral convictions.

That's the flipside, but also, some people are Nazis

Which is funny because if people listened to what you said and followed your instructions, then there literally would be no critical thinking here. Whereas if you choose to utilize critical thinking, you would not actually dismiss this thing entirely simply because it came from Tumblr because that is a logical fallacy called poisoning the well.

And if all it took to stop critical thinking for anybody was just saying, oh it comes from a bad place, then nobody would ever really do any critical thinking, right?

So let's ignore where it comes from and talk about the topic that's actually being presented, ok?

That is the traditional quote.

It's also not what I said.

The Church has long discovered that once you name someone or something as the Devil, you are justified in doing anything to them.

In 2026, see also, Antifa.

That is the quote that I've heard. I wonder if they were trying to make a point by tweaking the quote, although I'm not clear about what that would be

Exactly. A person can want every nazi dead and hope that nobody has to die while being completely logically and morally covered.

But that's not fair my skin is white and that means I'm important because insert fascist leader said so.

It can be super difficult when your only opportunity for survival is to become one of Immortan Joe's war boys, and are trained that your only path to redemption is to be a hero, to be witnessed as you sacrifice yourself in battle.

Those Nazis really get my goat!

Tolerance paradox is the only way forward. They deserve no quarter.

Barbeque the Naizis ALIIIVE!