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[–] 56 points 4 months ago (21 children)

Tankies:

All genocides are bad! Don't vote democrats!

Everyone else:

Yeah we hate the genocides in Palestine, Ukraine and of the Uyghurs in China.

Tankies:

Where is your proof that Ukraine and Uyghurs are being genocided?

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  • [–] 41 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    I have one account that follows me around to write variations of this comment:

    "We know what genocide looks like. It’s inescapable. You can’t have a secret genocide. There would be evidence of genocide if there was genocide. I can’t believe this has to be explained to clowns"

    And that's all their post history is.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Oh wow. I looked into that and found like 4 .ml accounts to block. Thank you.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago

    I always have mixed feelings. Like, is it my duty towards a healthy forum to downvote this guy, and therefore I shouldn’t block him?

    I don’t have the energy though. I usually end up blocking people like that.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I want to take your side, but that name is going to be burned into my mind for all time

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    Is it empireindecay and that other account that's somehow always in the same thread as him at the same time and saying the same things? They even necropost together. It would be so weird if they were actually different people...

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  • [–] -3 points 4 months ago (13 children)

    does it change the fact that there is no conclusive evidence to claim there is a genocide being carried out in xinjiang?

    most of these allegations against the perceived adversaries of west by liberals is just to lighten their guilt or to say be more morally right, far from truth just emotions

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  • [–] 25 points 4 months ago (12 children)

    I don't have time to argue with genocide denialists.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (11 children)

    You dont have time to produce proof? Or are you so into believing whatever the western chauvinist capitalist imperialist media tells you?

    There is unjust prosecution of minorities? sure. Like every other state. Is there a genocide? no proof whatsoever and never ever compare it with whats going on in palestine, that would be real genocide denial

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  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    This guy tricked China into letting him tour the camps, saying he wanted to see if western media was lying, then he came back and says they're putting people in concentration camps for praying, or being Muslim:

    https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/1.5369163

    Other states aren't doing this, don't normalize this please.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

    "tricked" the fucking CPC? lol.

    you are doing holocaust denial by calling them concentration camps without any empirical evidence

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  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Concentration camps != Extermination camps. The nazis had both. They also did forced sterilization in those camps. But the latter camps also had gas chambers.

    The US interned American Natives / American Indians and Japanese people in concentration camps. At least for the former group, they also carried out forced sterilization, settled and exploited their land, and stole their children away for "re-education". They did not build gas chambers or any other means of industrial slaughter, but few people would deny that the US committed genocide against the Native population of that continent.

    It's well documented that contraception, sterilization, and possibly abortion, are forced upon the Uyghur people in Xinjiang. Uyghur people but not Han Chinese are being interned in concentration camps in, at the time, the "largest mass incarceration of an ethnic-religious minority since second world war" (Guardian, 2019). Uyghur children are being transfered to boarding schools against the will of their parents and guardians, or because those have been interned for having too many children in the first place. Multiple Chinese government officials have repeatedly affirmed the goal of reducing Uyghur fertility. At a minimum, this constitutes 3 out of the 5 possible criteria for a genocide, each of which alone is sufficient to make that accusation. We have not yet seen mass killing of Uyghurs, but that doesn't mean there's no genocide. As has been said in this discussion: "We know what genocide looks like." Exactly: It commonly looks quite like this.

    Sources:

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    Guardian, 2019

    lol.

    wikipedia

    ok.

    bbc

    ok.

    Goal of reducing fertility isnt inherently wrong if it is done through education and awareness, I also support anti religious campaign through those methods.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I have a better time smashing my face into a brick wall and in the end the brick wall has a better chance of changing their minds.

    Peace out genocide denialist!

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    peace out chauvinist. free palestine fuck israel

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  • [–] 50 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    The real horseshoe theory:

    MAGAts and Tankies got hit on the head by a horseshoe.

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  • [–] -5 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    The real horseshoe theory:

    MAGAts and libs: vote harder for me otherwise the other will win, even tho both parties interest just lies with israel

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago* (4 children)

    Technically correct, although I wonder whether it would be easier to challenge the system under the "nothing will fundamentally change" party or the "We are actively and gleefully changing things for the worse" party...

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Best is to organize the working class behind a 3rd party.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    That would be best, yes. Is there a 3rd party in the US that already exists that could be organized behind?

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    @MousePotatoDoesStuff I dont know as I am not american but the greens are way better as a starting point than the dems.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    what ever came of the initial wave of “yeah but ukraine is using literal nazi units in the war, so russia is still trying to kill nazis and get the territory back for they reason?”

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  • [–] [S] 15 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    It still pops up now and again. On the Triad you still see people saying things like "Ukronazis"

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    The Triad? Neat. I am guessing those are the instances that shall not be named?

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I don't like being lumped in with these people just because I chose to register on the devs‘ instance.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    A person's instance can be an identity, of sorts. Not everyone going to make assumptions about you, but you are going to be exposed to a ton of unconscious bias, regardless.

    If I see someone at a baseball game, it's safe to assume that the person actually likes baseball. It's so safe of a guess that many people wouldn't think twice about making that assumption.

    I am simply calling out the conundrum for what it is. Stereotyping isn't the best thing in the world, but it is inevitable.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago*

    "You aren't being invaded, you're the fascist invader and Russia just defends itself from NATO!!!111"

    And then there's https://lemmy.world/post/48392030 here on lemmy

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