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[–] 79 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Note to self: do not make a language intended for global communication by just mixing 3 European languages and taking the hardest to learn features from them.

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  • [–] 35 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    What do you mean by hardest features? It's been ages since i looked at Esperanto, but back then I didn't find it particularly hard to learn.

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  • [–] 42 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Let me guess: your native language is Germanic, Romance or Slavic.

    Esperanto's phonetics, phonotactics, vocabulary and grammar are all overly Eurocentric and twice as complicated as they should be for a language that is presented as a tool for global communication. And don't even get me started on diacritics.

    Anyone who grew up speaking a non-Indo-European language is going to have a hard time even getting the hang of the alphabet and all the sounds.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I maintain that the most realistically usable artificial global language would be something inspired by toki pona, but with actual effort put into picking words that are maximally understandable and pronounceable by as many people as possible and is designed to be incredibly difficult to mangle beyond intelligibility.

    No even remotely complex rules, nothing fancy whatsoever, just an engineered caveman speech that literally anyone can learn from a pamphlet and reliably use to communicate basic normal things with anyone else. Like the way you end up talking when you just barely know a language and need to communicate "i'm allergic to shellfish, can you guarantee that my food won't have touched any part of an animal with a shell?"

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago

    "But Esperanto is the future!"

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago

    ...

    Use esoteric knowledge of jet streams to firebomb the Pacific coast of the United States with balloons.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    but you can learn esperanto in like a month... estas tre facile stultuloj...

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    You can learn it in a month….if you are from Western Europe.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    You might as well just write it in Singlish. It's not a real language so it would be difficult to write a technical paper. What is Esperanto for hydrodynamics?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    If a word does not exist in Esperanto you can use other words to create a new one just like hydrodynamics means (roughly don't @ me) "study of movement of fluid" you could put together fluid + movement + study (Fluidmovadlogio) in esperanto and it would be completely understandable even if you don't know the "correct" term

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Are you ok? Do you smell burning toast?

    (I kid, I knew a guy who was really good at it, it was always fun to have him translate things to esperanto for fun)

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    lol, BTW spoken esperanto has a bit of a problem because the person speaking it injects the pronunciation of its language into it so you end up with germans and french doing the german and french "R" or the anglos mispronouncing a lot of vowels.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    Kiam oni konsciiĝas, ke oni povas diri ian ajn rubon sur la interreto per tiu ĉi lingvo, ĉar neniu komprenos sin

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I've never looked at Esperanto. Is it at least easy to learn and use?

    I have to look up it's history, like who and when thought it's a good idea, and why it didn't work out. Sounds like a fun rabbit hole.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    The Esperanto bento

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    Use Toki Pona for your scientific papers.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    Should have published in Lojban.

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