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[+] 30 points 4 months ago (6 children)
  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Almost everybody I know is firmly of the, “I don’t need privacy;

    And more... they think YOU don't need it either. They are very happy giving away YOUR privacy along with their own.

    I think most ppl honestly don't realize how corrosive it is, to a whole society, when privacy is completely lost.

    It seems kinda like smoking? The cigarette today does not kill me tomorrow. But 10 more years, now I have cancer. I can't point to the exact single cigarette that caused that. It was a collective effect. The same with giving away privacy. It hurts us all, long term.

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  • [+] 5 points 4 months ago* (1 child)
  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    so does mine. I share your doubts, because I believe at the end of the day these systems are built to help public officials evade accountability.

    its so much easier for a private company to fuck up and fine them for it(aka, cost of doing business) than any of the historical alternatives that pin accountability on our public institutions.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    And remember, in any country where these cameras exist police do not need a warrant to access this informaion.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (5 children)

    I'm not buying that they can scan pet chips. I think that requires closer proximity than their devices can get. At some point, we ought to just buy high powered jammers that only activate when the scanners are around.

    On the othet hand, its still an issue that we can't address issues faster than they enshittify.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (4 children)

    I’m not buying that they can scan pet chips. I think that requires closer proximity than their devices can get.

    IDK if they can or not, but I've heard they scan car tire pressure sensors. Which apparently, have unique IDs. Unique fingerprint for each car that has 'em. All those fingeprrints put together let them track cars even if the plate is changed.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (3 children)

    Unless there is wirelesa telemetry from the sensor, they probably can't scan those.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (2 children)

    The tire sensors, you mean? (nvm this if you meant the pet chips!) Those do use wireless telemetry. It's easier do like that, and more reliable, than attaching a wire to a rapidly rotating thing through a brushing contact or w/e. Most of them have little batteries, so they actively transmit. Unlike those pet RFID chips which are powered only by the incoming radio signal.

    They also have unique identifiers. Not unique per car. I guess it makes sense in a way. You wouldn't want to use the TPMS data from a car in the next lane. But it does open up this attack :(

    I wonder what kinda weird looks a person would get, if they ask a tire shop to remove the TPMS modules from their tires, lol

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    [–] 29 points 4 months ago

    And exactly as predicted, the surveillance creep begins its next steps, with more to come.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago

    With everything you can do to reduce your fingerprint from technology, stuff like this just makes it virtually impossible to carry anything electronic.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Be sure to remind your local street folk that each of those cameras contains at least 3 lbs of copper wiring.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    Let's not be deceitful. Its about $100 dollars.

    Also a nice infrared camera, and a single board computer which is the real value here, just be sure to take out the GPS (can be reused in other things technically) and the LTE/SIM card(probably dont try to reuse this one )

    Dont forget the solar panel.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago*

    Who's up for making villages where this kind of shit is burnt in a ritual fire?

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    And, by that, of course you mean they'll tell us that already are, soon. 🤌🏼

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago* (11 children)

    Late last year a city I have to drive through was bragging they had deployed systems to ID cars based on their TPMS sensors. I made a comment on lemmy some time later mentioning this, and also talked about how I had removed those sensors from my vehicle.

    I was immediately inundated with comments that more or less said "That's too hard to do and requires special tools, also your car will certainly kill you once you take them out due to three tires having 36 psi and one tire having 35 psi, and it won't work anyway because your car's 5g connection and your phone so it's a stupid idea and you should definitely not do it because you'd be a moron for doing so."

    The fact that I was hit by so many comments that basically said the same thing so quickly, tells me I was correct for removing them. I wonder where those "people" are now?

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Lol

    Antennas are too hard to deploy? It's just a radio signal. Most hackers could build a tool to record tpms sensors that pass their house.

    Are there other ways to track you, yea. But those of us that drive and keep old cars running don't have 5g and tpms. If I leave my phone at home, the only radio signal my car puts out is the Bluetooth from the aftermarket radio I installed. I could swap that back and they'd have to use cameras to track my car.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Oh no, I wasn't clear - they said removing the TPM sensors themselves required specialized equipment. Which I suppose is technically true, but it was the work of an hour and a harbor freight manual tire changer. So it "requires" equipment any stoned hillbilly either owns themselves or is owned by someone they know. Or they could just have a tire shop do it.

    The car I drive is modern-ish, from the last decade, but it is a really, really basic car. It doesn't even shift it's own gears. The instrument cluster and center console don't even have screens in them. There is certainly not any 5G antenna, as the car predates the commercial 5G rollout.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Oh yea. It's just replacing a valve stem. I guess the computer might bitch some if it doesn't have any, but electrical tape fixes that light.

    I guess balancing the tire after would be the hardest part.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    I didn't even have to balance the tire. I only broke the bead on one side, and pushed the tire sidewall back enough to get my hand in there and pull the sensors out. They are very lightweight and didn't throw the balance off that I could notice.

    I do have a persistent TPMS warning light, but some work with a screwdriver had the bulb out. My truck was different, it has a warning light and a warning message on the cluster LCD screen, but with Forscan I was able to just disable the TPMS function.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    I did not know tpms used radios for local comm. I would thought they'd used a type of rotary union like you see on semis with auto inflate tires.

    Leave it to manufacturers to find the cheapest solution thats worse for everyone.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Those problems the users brought to your attention are accurate and still exist, though. Now there's just additional problems.

    Unless you're obscuring your license plate as you drive, they still don't need this tech to track your movements and will continue to do so by camera, alone, and you've still degraded your driving experience. I'm not sure what you think was "solved" by removing your TPMS sensors, since they're still tracking you just the same.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    Hey look, another one!

    There is no reason to make it easier for them, is it?

    What part of my "driving experience" was degraded? You realize tire pressure gauges exist, right?

    I won't discuss other options for the issues you mentioned, because you're repeating the same words as some pretty obvious bots.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    Oh fucking yikes.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    Pets?! My tags are FDX-B, can they actually read them from that distance?! I know UHF RFID is a thing but afaik average FDX-B tags found in pets aren't capable of that.

    Uhhh.... if it can do that it can also read the one on your keys for the gym/pool/work/apartments...

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Jokes on you, my car doesnt have a tpms.

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  • 1 comment in c/privacy@lemmy.dbzer0.com view that post
    [–] 8 points 4 months ago

    Sounds like there is a market for devices that can broadcast fake signals then to poison the data.

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