Obviously like prescriptions are different to ensure safety and dosages and such. I mean like the notes to show that you or your child actually went to the doctor. Has anyone ever called like "hi, yeah so I just wanted to confirm my employee John saw your employer yesterday and confirm they are a real doctor"

I can't imagine any manager actually has enough free time and enough pettiness to actually do that, am I wrong?

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[–] 55 points 4 months ago (8 children)

I think I actually did once. But only because this particular employee was so unreliable that we had told her that we'd for her for calling off without a doctor's excuse.

Sure enough, she called off, but she did bring in a doctor's note... that just happened to look like she wrote it on the way to work.

I called the number on it later that day and I'm pretty sure she was the one that answered before hanging up on me.

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  • [–] [S] 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

    Lol, please tell me it was actually written and not printed.

    Edit : even better was it actually on a page of paper or was it on like a napkin or back of a receipt?

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    It was so long ago, I don't exactly remember what it looked like, but I do remember laughing at how little effort went into it.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 4 months ago

    I do appreciate the challenge of lowest effort calling out of work...

    I once called out of work by sending a whisper to my boss in world of warcraft chat... His only response was "really??"

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    I had an employee call in late or call out so incredibly frequently that I sat her down one day and said “I’m not saying your excuses are lies… but if they are true than you must be cursed. You need to return the amulet you stole from that tomb, see if you can’t appease what ever dark spirit is haunting your life… because I can’t work around this curse anymore”

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  • [–] [S] 34 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I would question your qualifications for answering but you answered as fast as possible and left. That defines my experience with medical professionals.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    I was an Army Social Worker and I did confirmed appointments for soldiers.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Any appointments or just special ones? Like if a soldiers went to a doctor for a stomach ache? Or just if they got all the shots to travel to the Congo?

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago* (4 children)

    I only reported if they had an appointment at the clinic I worked at. All we were allowed to tell the soldiers command is the date and time and location of the appointment, no other details.

    When your in the army, your command can verify any appointment you (a soldier) has. So while i don't know of any “sick call” reporting, i am sure that happened.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Ok, I'm not a soldier but that seems to lack the important detail of of they went. You said date, time, and location but their presence is important.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Command is obligated to maintain accountability of their soldiers, but knowing details of medical issues gets tricky.

    If a soldier has a medical issue that prevents them from doing thier duties there is a process to communicate that. It is called being on profile. Say a soldier injured their wrist, they would get a profile that would say no lifting, or operating machinery, etc.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I don’t think most people would really care about a one off… but if it becomes a regular thing and/or the person has very low credibility then they’ll be more interested on if they’ve been taken for a ride or not.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

    Wouldn't even just responding to that kind of inquiry be a massive HIPPA violation?

    Update: Some research shows that HIPPA does allows them to confirm the authenticity of the note and the date and time of the appointment but nothing else.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    There are quite a few exceptions built into HIPAA. I'm sure there would be something as you describe, but also there are things like if a crime occurred on the premises of the provider (or whatever) and they think they recognize the person in their security footage as a patient, they can give that information to law enforcement (as one would expect with non-healthcare organizations).

    Another is that if someone is talking with a patient in a double room with only a curtain separating, someone overhearing the conversation is considered incidental and not a HIPAA violation

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Hmmm....true

    So why does every company/school ask for a "doctors note" if they can't?

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Some research shows that HIPPA does allows them to confirm the authenticity of the note and the date and time of the appointment but nothing else.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Ok, several questions... 1. Why is this some research? Shouldn't this just be a it allows or it doesn't allow? 2. How do they confirm it? 3. If you are the person answering the phone, why do you care? If I got a call asking if Sally visited my doctor yesterday, the answer is yes. I don't know Sally and never met her but yup she definitely was in this office which I don't own yesterday so she couldn't be at your office yesterday. 4. Wait time? Why does the boss care? I have a doctor appointment tomorrow so I won't be at work, doesn't matter if it's 9am, 3pm or 2:15am.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago
    1. Why is this some research? Shouldn't this just be a it allows or it doesn't allow?

    Research can sometimes be as simple as "I googled it"

    But have you ever looked at the full text of HIPAA? Or really just about any law for that matter?

    HIPAA is something like 150 pages long, with a lot of specific details about what's forbidden, permitted, and required under different circumstances. There's a lot to comb over there.

    And it's written in legalese, and there's good reason that laws are written that way, but it is often difficult for the average person to parse.

    And there's places where laws reference other laws, and then you may have to go look up the relevant parts of those laws to fully understand what the law you were initially looking up is trying to say.

    Point is that laws are complex and difficult for most people to understand, there's a reason we have professions like lawyers and paralegals whose whole jobs are basically to understand what laws apply under what circumstances. Understanding the nuances involved is rarely as cut-and-dry as looking up the law and seeing it spelled out in plain English that "X is/isn't legal" and when you see a law explained like that, there's a good chance that it's leaving out a lot of nuance about certain circumstances where the opposite might be true.

    1. If you are the person answering the phone, why do you care?

    Because being gainfully employed is how most people afford basic necessities like food and shelter, and if your boss finds out you're doing that you're not going to be keeping that job for very long.

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