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[–] 115 points 5 months ago (14 children)

For anyone wondering these are, legally speaking, ebikes. As in they squeezed a delivery truck into the legal definition for a bike to be able to use bike lanes.

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  • [–] 37 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Well then we need to change the definition of ebikes. Either that or we only allow private personal vehicles to use the bike lane.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (8 children)

    Wtf for real?! Thats fucking wild

    Edit: So does that mean they can legally park in all the bike lanes? Is the bike lane even usable by bicycles any more, or has it just turned into Amazon's exclusive shipping lane?

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Can bikes park in bike lanes?

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  • [+] -9 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Beats the fuck outta me, but I wouldn't have thought those delivery vehicles would have been "bikes" either, fucko

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    In Europe these 'cargo bikes' are being accepted quite well. I don't mind them. They're slow, low carbon footprint, child safe... So why not? They do take up a lot of space but that's because the cycle path is too narrow. More cyclepaths so cargo can be delivered by bike. That's what we need.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    So this asshole is dickish with his reply, but I call them a fucko and I'm the asshole, alright. ANYWAY. I wasn't saying shit about having more bikes. How is this not obviously a huge win for amazon, tiny cars or not. You think this was the intent behind the bike lane laws? Abso-fuckin-lutely not.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    You're OK? Mind you that I'm from the EU and a daily bike commuter. I ride 25 km to work, every single day, and am very sensitive to the bike/car discourse. I really don't see the issue so please explain without getting rude.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    The bike lane is usable. I mean, for about a half-a-block at a time, cause of the parked cars.

    I wish NYC would allow citizens to take a video of a car parked in the bike lane for more than a minute, issue a ticket, and make it profitable for the ticket issuer. All of the problems would go away overnight.

    And actually, I wish we could take videos of cars going through red lights. Or, LOL, illegal u-turns. "Go around the block" is not a thing anymore. Everyone just turns around wherever the fuck they are.

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  • [–] 36 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    Oh no. Now we have justification for expanding bike lane infrastructure.

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    Wanted to bitch about it with everyone else. but you singlehandedly changed my mind.

    Fuck Amazon, but more bike infrastructure is good.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    They want to use the bike lane so they don't have to follow traffic laws.

    Bike infrastructure is good, capitalism still bad.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago* (5 children)

    I don't disagree with you at all.

    just wondering if a big chunk of NY delivery/cargo vehicles were electric cargo bikes like that, would it be an improvement? (given that will force turning car lanes into bike lanes).

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Theoretically it would be less asthma for children that's really not nothing.

    But the batteries for those ebikes almost certainly come from children in mines.

    It all ends up as borrowing from tom to pay peter back when amazon is involved.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Ebikes take much less resources than cars. Complaining about reducing the resources and energy needed for transportation is disingenuous.

    You cannot pull a "no ethical consumption under capitalism" to protect the current status quo.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child)

    Not abusing a sentience in another country so you can have your funco pops at home is also not nothing.

    I'd like amazon logistics to be broken up and owned by the communities it inhabitants. But I'd also like that to happen to GM and Ford too. If you catch my drift.

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  • [–] 36 points 5 months ago

    Yeah idk why they painted a bicycle on the Amazon Parking Lane

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    If they’re moving along the bike lanes the way cyclists use them I don’t have big beef here.

    If they’re then PARKING in the bike lanes to go make their deliveries, we have a problem. One that can be solved pretty easily considering these aren’t cars and are very light. Very easy to tip. Especially when they’re just sitting there abandoned in a flat bike lane.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Did they buy a bunch of Model T's for deliveries?

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  • [–] 25 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    "New Yorkers"
    Looks inside
    One of the biggest corporations in the world

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I don't know if you know this, but corporations are staffed by people who are in control of their own actions.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    actually the board, C suite, and upper management are the ones who control what the employees do. maybe you've experienced this at your own job.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah, the board called up that specific worker and told them to drive in the bike lane.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago*

    do you not know how big companies work? pressure to work as fast as possible and not care about the world around you ("externalize costs") comes from every level of the business.

    1. board demands results
    2. c suite creates the strategy and demands upper management fulfill it
    3. upper management sets targets and uses funding allocation to pressure middle & lower management
    4. middle & lower management pressure workers to hit/exceed targets, often by making them compete with each other
    5. workers do what they have to to stay employed, which in this case means blocking the bike lane because Amazon doesn't even let their workers take bathroom breaks..

    Amazon in particular uses "subcontractor" drivers who are paid less, have few/no benefits or protections, and who compete with each other on speed and other metrics. it's yet another reason to stop caring about the world around you.

    https://theconversation.com/the-unraveling-of-workplace-protections-for-delivery-drivers-a-tale-of-2-workplace-models-268164

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    how is that an ebike it has 4 wheels

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    It looks like the bike lane ended right before the truck.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    Yeah, I just hope NYC is taxing the fuck out of those quadra-cycle-boxes. I know we aren't, but come on- Amazon trucks routinely park all day near my apt, blocking the bike lane and half of the road. Tax them, tax them, tax them.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    ebikes are vehicles in the same way that motorcycles are as in they are not exclusively human powered. They belong in the normal lanes with the other non human powered vehicles. It's dangerous to riders in the bike lane legally when ebikes and other vehicles are whipping around because they want to skip the line. According to NYC law you are only allowed 750 watts max and 15mph limit to use the bike lane. They really need to revisit that because these are not safe to others in the lane.

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