France I guess I can see, "four score and twelve". I don't have a clue with Denmark
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French speaking Belgium straight up invented new words for 70, 80, 90 because even they don't like that French bullshit
Swiss french too has cut a stop to that nonsense
They both came about in France around the same time, just influenced by Celtic/Germanic base-20 system or the romance base-10 system. Then France standardized to the ridiculous base-20 system and Belgium and Switzerland went with the correct system.
I think 99 would be a better example for France. 4x20 10 9.
I worked hard to get mine and my kids telephone numbers under 70, it's half hell otherwise.
Say 92 87 78 97:
4 20 2 4 20 7 60 10 8 4 20 10 7
Easy peasy right π, well you do get the hang of it but it's easy to mess up somewhere in the middle, especially if you do have a real 20, 10, 4 and so on.
And if you just say each digit in the phone number they look at you like you are crazy.
Pfft thats nothing. Watch what numbers I can type out!
83 89 5 19
Boom Whatchu got now. Solve that math nerd
Edit: math jokes = bad here
how to say 87
most Americans: 80+7
Abraham Lincoln: 4Γ20+7
I've realized from this thread that I have a weird way of reading multiplication that feels very antiquated. I have nothing to add to your comment or the conversation, I just felt like it fits a bit here, where you referenced the antiquated "score" counting.
In my head, I don't read that as "four times twenty plus ten" it's "four by twenty plus ten"
I have no idea where that came from, and I need to ask family members if they do it too
I mean multiplication comes from the the area of a rectangle. A rectangle that is 4 by 4 has an area of 16, in other words 4 by 4 is 16. In hungarian for example thats by far the most common way of saying it. Also "4 multiplied by 4", you can easily see how multiplied could be dropped to result in "4 by 4".
Now arabs do 2+90 as well but it makes sense because they write right to left and so they write the 2 before the 90
The Russian and Ukrainian ones aren't correct. They say "90" as something along the lines of "nine but hundred".
The tens are:
Ten
Two ten
Three ten
Sorok
Five ten
Six ten
Seven ten
Eight ten
Nine but hundred
(Plus, these all have contractions, but it's easy to hear where the words stem from)
Suddenly... Sorok!
Sorok is 40 sable furs tied together for easier countiing while trading, it is soooo obvious!
And of course, to go further into nothing making any sense:
The Finnish language took the Russian word for sable, sΓ³bol, and made a word of its own based off that: sopuli. But sopuli doesn't mean sable. It means lemming. Somebody got confused. Later they heard about sable and named it soopeli in Finnish.
Another interesting one is how Japan counts big numbers. There's a word/character for 10,000 (δΈ man) and large numbers are multiples of that. So a million is 100x10,000 for instance.
Large numbers aren't all multiples of δΈ (i mean, everything is a multiple of something), Japan just uses the long scale myriad (ie 4 zeros to the comma). So you have 10 man, 100 man, 1000 man, and after that is oku, cho, etc, all of which go to 1000 before the next number word.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_and_short_scales
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myriad
ed: long scale is apparently different from 4 zeros to the comma
Slovenia is the only slavic country using German system. I was super confused shopping there. 42,41 sounds like "one and fourty and two and fourty"
Also Americans: Four score and twelve seven years ago, ...
What's the red one again?
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