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[–] 37 points 5 months ago (16 children)

France I guess I can see, "four score and twelve". I don't have a clue with Denmark

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  • [–] 30 points 5 months ago* (13 children)

    Danish has essentially managed to shorten "four and a half score" to what would be equivalent to saying "half to fives" in English. So it would be "two and half to fives" if we were to do the same in English. (This is also kinda similar to how the clock is read. 8:30 would be "half to nine" rather than "half past eight", which is used in English.)

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (11 children)

    In swedish 8:30 is half nine (halv nio), wonder if that's with spread.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    In catalan it'd be two quarters of nine, usually shortened to quarters of nine (the two, specifically, is implied). You can also add β€œand five” (minutes) and β€œminus five", so 8:20 would be a quarter and five of nine, and 8:40 three quarters minus five of nine. 8:05 would be eight and five, and 8:55 would be nine minus five.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Interesting in NZ we would say half eight; for 8:30. Which when written looks really strange; but it is the shortening of half past eight. But strangely we always say quarter past eight rather than quarter eight.

    8:25 would be eight twenty five.
    8:35 would be twenty five to nine.
    8:45 would be quarter to nine, or more uncommon is just to read out eight forty five.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    In French, you count from 69 to 72 like "sixty-nine, sixty-ten, sixty-eleven, sixty-twelve". Then from 79 to 81 it goes "sixty-nineteen, four twenties, four twenties and one". Then from 89 to 91 it goes "four twenties and nine, four twenties and ten, four twenties and eleven".

    It's not consistently vigesimal, though. Twenty is "vingt"*, thirty is "trente", forty is "quarante", fifty is "cinquante" and sixty is "soixante" - so far all normal. The only ones where they go all vigesimal on us are 70 (soixante-dix), 80 (quatre-vingts) and 90 (quatre-vingt-dix).

    *etymologically "two-tens", if you go back beyond Latin: it's from Proto-Indo-European *dwi(h₁)dαΈ±mΜ₯ti

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  • [–] 32 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    French speaking Belgium straight up invented new words for 70, 80, 90 because even they don't like that French bullshit

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Swiss french too has cut a stop to that nonsense

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    They both came about in France around the same time, just influenced by Celtic/Germanic base-20 system or the romance base-10 system. Then France standardized to the ridiculous base-20 system and Belgium and Switzerland went with the correct system.

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  • [–] 19 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    I think 99 would be a better example for France. 4x20 10 9.

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago* (4 children)

    I worked hard to get mine and my kids telephone numbers under 70, it's half hell otherwise.

    Say 92 87 78 97:

    4 20 2 4 20 7 60 10 8 4 20 10 7

    Easy peasy right 😁, well you do get the hang of it but it's easy to mess up somewhere in the middle, especially if you do have a real 20, 10, 4 and so on.

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  • [–] 35 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    how to say 87

    most Americans: 80+7

    Abraham Lincoln: 4Γ—20+7

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I've realized from this thread that I have a weird way of reading multiplication that feels very antiquated. I have nothing to add to your comment or the conversation, I just felt like it fits a bit here, where you referenced the antiquated "score" counting.

    In my head, I don't read that as "four times twenty plus ten" it's "four by twenty plus ten"

    I have no idea where that came from, and I need to ask family members if they do it too

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    I mean multiplication comes from the the area of a rectangle. A rectangle that is 4 by 4 has an area of 16, in other words 4 by 4 is 16. In hungarian for example thats by far the most common way of saying it. Also "4 multiplied by 4", you can easily see how multiplied could be dropped to result in "4 by 4".

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Now arabs do 2+90 as well but it makes sense because they write right to left and so they write the 2 before the 90

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    The Russian and Ukrainian ones aren't correct. They say "90" as something along the lines of "nine but hundred".

    The tens are:

    Ten

    Two ten

    Three ten

    Sorok

    Five ten

    Six ten

    Seven ten

    Eight ten

    Nine but hundred

    (Plus, these all have contractions, but it's easy to hear where the words stem from)

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)
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    Sorok is 40 sable furs tied together for easier countiing while trading, it is soooo obvious!

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    And of course, to go further into nothing making any sense:

    The Finnish language took the Russian word for sable, sΓ³bol, and made a word of its own based off that: sopuli. But sopuli doesn't mean sable. It means lemming. Somebody got confused. Later they heard about sable and named it soopeli in Finnish.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Another interesting one is how Japan counts big numbers. There's a word/character for 10,000 (δΈ‡ man) and large numbers are multiples of that. So a million is 100x10,000 for instance.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    Large numbers aren't all multiples of δΈ‡ (i mean, everything is a multiple of something), Japan just uses the long scale myriad (ie 4 zeros to the comma). So you have 10 man, 100 man, 1000 man, and after that is oku, cho, etc, all of which go to 1000 before the next number word.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_and_short_scales
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myriad

    ed: long scale is apparently different from 4 zeros to the comma

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Slovenia is the only slavic country using German system. I was super confused shopping there. 42,41 sounds like "one and fourty and two and fourty"

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Also Americans: Four score and twelve seven years ago, ...

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    At least we use the real billion (bi-million)

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)