I am kinda fed up off trying all these privacy focused search engines which provide lesser quality service. Here's what I've tried so far:

  1. Duckduckgo: bad results when you search something that piracy related
  2. Searx: I'm not geeky enough to host mine own searx so I just jump from one instance to another and the uptimes have been bad.
  3. Startpage: Idk why it's down most of the time
  4. Ecosia: Not very private, but I just tried it for the sake of it. It's bad when it comes to the results.

Honestly I feel Brave search is the best when it comes to results. But the sketchy practices kept me away from it. Kagi is paid so I haven't tried it.

What have you been using?

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[–] 16 points 5 months ago

I've been uaing my own selfhosted searxng instance. Absolutely love it.

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  • [+] 13 points 5 months ago (9 children)
  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    You are doing business with google when using it though, and it's results have severely enshitified along with the rest since 2021. (They pay google.)

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Which amounts to the same thing. I use startpage too for lack of an alternative, but it's not ideal. I want to do zero business with these silicon valley parasites.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    I get this page all the time idk why. I thought it was startpage's issue.

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    [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    searXNG

    with a lot of "backends". I like how it aggregates the results from multiple engines, at least for my searches they turn out consistently more relevant when using any single search.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

    Duck Duck works for me. I use the "Disable Ai" addon (libreoffice) to remove most of the useless stuff. I've also tried Ecosia, but the lack of option for chronological results is a big No for me.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago* (4 children)

    Currently using https://www.qwant.com/

    It's French, they are trying to create an european search index together with german Ecosia.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    This is exciting to hear! Last I heard, Ecosia just wrapped Google's results. KAGI is pretty upfront about doing the same.

    This will sound silly, but an absolute need-to-have for me is the ability to throw basic math problems into the search bar as a calculator.

    I never reach for a calculator or spin up a separate app for it, or want to widget on my desktop.. instead, I just press the keyboard shortcut for a new tab in my browser and then just belt out whatever parentheticals I need.

    This pretty much serves as the basis for my evaluating different search engines, if it won't handle the algebra for me, I have to move on.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Afaik qwant is using Bing where their own index fails.

    You could set up a key combo for a calculator app all the same. And have some fancier calculator app open locally...

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    I absolutely could launch the calculator app by keyboard shortcut when I'm on a desktop. And I kept a calculator widget across an entire full screen in my Android phone's home menu, for many years.

    These days, I really value the ability to just open a new tab, belt out my instructions, hit enter, and see the result though - - it is mostly things like calculating the total cost of buying something across a year, or calculating currency conversions, or estimating battery capacities and consumption rates.

    In this regard, without wanting to buy into an entire AI ecosystem, I do require my search engines to do at least one function beyond mere searches: Pre-algebra.

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    [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    You can try Kagi for free, no CC required.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

    I know you mentioned having tried it but my experience with DDG has been pretty good and it's what I use (edit to add that I'm not doubting your experience with it has been poor and this isn't intended to sound flippant).

    I see Kagi come up a lot. I don't trust engines like Kagi not to link my payment data with my search history, personally. They're a US company, so consider what that means in the current state of the world and privacy. I haven't deeply investigated the validity of it, but the Kagi CEO allegedly harassed a journalist (minor edit, a blogger) who had a critical take on their service, and supposedly they were founded as - you guessed it - an AI company.

    And sure, DDG is a US company, too. But they don't really have anything personally identifying to link my searches back to me. I can accept the ads (though I have uBlock), which are only contextually targeted based on search keywords. I don't think I'd use their browser or extensions, which would have a much more privileged place in my "tech stack", but for search it does well enough.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    You can completely decouple your payment data from your search history with Kagi, something no other search engine allows. https://help.kagi.com/kagi/privacy/privacy-pass.html

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    Kagi has a free trial.

    Brave is run by a POS.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago*

    after a similar path that you took, I now use Metager.org, a privacy respecting meta search engine. You pay for your search requests, but it's very, very cheap since it is run by a nonprofit (around a eurocent/search depending on settings). They integrate a lot of smaller search indexes, and you can choose to integrate braves and googles index if you wish. You can blacklist webpages too, and the source is FOSS.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    If you aren't paying for it, you are the product. I pay for Kagi and I am very happy with the results and tools they develop.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    I have a Kagi subscription and very happy with it.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Isn't there a new European thing?

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    [+] -8 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Opera (with it's free VPN, I know, I'm the product, but it gets around porn restrictions since I live in a shithole state/country)

    Firefox for regular browsing

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  • [–] [S] 10 points 5 months ago

    You can easily get around your country's restrictions using private DNS. Go to your browser, search for secure DNS and choose any provider, preferably anything that's privacy-focused.

    And btw move away from every Opera product.

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