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[–] 12 points 5 months ago

When I look around all I see is evidence against the rich breeding, not the poor

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    In the vein of encouraging smoking as it costs the NHS for associated diseases earlier on, but kills the patients before the really expensive care for Alzheimers etc is required, could you argue that IVF saves money in the long run by providing a child to care for those who would otherwise require extensive state support in their old age?

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Encouraging smoking to save money is an unethical thought experiment not actual policy. Smoking is not guaranteed to kill and due to modern treatments it is a lot more survivable now. This means it will be significantly more expensive if people smoke. Quality of life is also significantly reduced along with productivity.

    Kids are not required by law to take care of their parents so you can't count on that. Besides, most of the really high costs are from living in a care facility. Most people cannot provide this level of care.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    OK that's a non-starter. How then do we make our proposal for self-funding provision of IVF on the NHS? What if they reserve a modest quantity of spare stem cells for the production of veal?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Reflux continues to bring their best.

    If you think it's a shitshow now, wait until they get into power and run amok.

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