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[–] 55 points 5 months ago (6 children)

time to start the 12 year countdown to ever seeing it in a single consumer product

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah until it starts hitting widespread hardware decode support (streaming devices and phones) it’s pretty much just a curiosity to all involved as the only things traditionally powerful enough to software decode these codecs at 4k without overheating are computers and I don’t see that changing.

    If h266 gets hw decode support on a bunch of common chips first it’ll be a real blow licensing freedom or not.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    I wouldn't bet on h266 after the clusterfuck that happened with h264/265 license fees. All manufacturers and developers will re-evaluate their codec use if there's a chance their license fees could 10x overnight just because someone felt like it.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    It's a different world, there isn't much driving VVC like there was for AVC and HEVC. There isn't a new physical media format, and even the latest OTA TV specification is stuck on HEVC.

    It's going to be up to streaming platforms what wins the next codec race, and a lot of them are betting on AV1 and AV2 for obvious reasons. I don't see VVC really getting widespread adoption.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Do we know for sure this time that there's no way it could infringe on some parent troll's feelings?

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago*

    Nope.

    I don’t think there’s any way to know for sure without some left-field software technique.


    My first thought would be something akin to the VAEs already used to encode/decode chunks of video. I dunno how practical it could be adapted as a general video codec, but it has a high compression ratio and a healthy distance from the media patent minefield.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    AV1 is just about getting support and we're moving on already?

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    How much better is it? I am thinking in terms of compression.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Is this a homeplug announcement from 2015?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    I upgraded to an RTX Quadro 4000 on my media server (from a 750ti) and it still doesn't support AV1 lmao.

    Even last time I was on PC partpicker, the top beefy 10k USD media chonker machine was targeting a specific CPU for cheap AVX512 support because apparently it was required for heavy AV1 work, which I assume meant the GPUs couldn't keep up.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    I still haven't converted my stuff to AV1. Lazyness has suddenly become a wise decision.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Sweet. Once handbrake and other programs like kdenlive support export in it, I'll start encoding new stuff in it, at least for testing it out. It'll be slow but that's fine. A couple years for hardware decoders in desktop/laptop graphics cards. More for mobile. A couple more for hardware encoders. Then there's the AI hardware shortage that'll make adoption even slower. VVC is already practically dead. It'll be slow for adoption but AV2 is going to be running almost unopposed with how little has happened with VVC in 6 years

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