Cross posted from https://lemmy.today/post/53815017

First tool ban is here! A new law was just signed in New York that requires blueprint blocking technology on every CNC machine, laser cutter, lathe and 3D printer. This affects everyone who makes, builds or fixes things. This isn't a firearms law. It's a manufacturing law. And they buried it in the budget because they knew exactly what it was.

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[–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

This isn't CNC machine blocking, it is CAD shape blocking. You can just feed your CNC machine GCode you generated in any non internet connected toolpath generator. Or if you are desperate hand write your gcode, like the old days.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child)

    But yet wouldn't that still be a crime or a loophole that they will address. Like their anti worker regulation serves capital and capital is criminal and loves the criminal so.... we all who are not criminal are getting cornered all across the board and will be lumpined into the world of harsh punishments. Like speed cameras are not the solution but they do make a lot of money. Any changes is always for the benifit of capital. I have lived long enough to see the patterns.

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    [–] 26 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I still don’t understand why they let budget bills get stuffed with unrelated laws. Seems like those should be separate bills, not hidden in must pass legislation.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    I try to consider what would happen if someone actually had the integrity to stand up to this shit.

    They'd get outed for holding back the budget. Media would be all over it framing them as being obstructionist.

    It'd require some balls and connection to the media to set the story straight.

    But it'd also require that they even know about what they're voting for. These kinds of changes are deliberately being shoveled onto the cart after train has started running. You'd have to hire a team to read everything as soon as it written and demand that changes are published before voting, which it is sometimes isn't, so this is something that also have to be addressed all the while the media is shooting at you.

    The best thing would be to allow a complete breakdown. Don't pass anything. See what happens and who the people support when they're hungry.

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  • [–] 50 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    From the actual bill:

    HOWEVER, THAT IF THE WORKING GROUP DETERMINES THAT IT IS NOT TECHNOLOGICALLY FEASIBLE TO REQUIRE THREE-DIMENSIONAL PRINTERS SOLD IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK TO INCLUDE BLOCKING TECHNOLOGY, THE WORKING GROUP SHALL SO REPORT, AND NO REGULATIONS SHALL BE REQUIRED TO BE PROMULGATED PURSUANT TO THIS SECTION, UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THE WORKING GROUP DETER- MINES THAT IT IS TECHNOLOGICALLY FEASIBLE.

    Considering the number of open source 3d printers, and mills, plus conversion packages for manual mills, It's ludicrous to assume it's feasible. And NY has nowhere near the manufacturing monopoly to force the rest of the country, let alone the world, to comply with a demand that all of them have blocking systems.

    Even given the safety check of a working group, this same bill also makes a stick illegal. So it's more than likely to fail on a few challenges, assuming it even makes it to final vote in this form.

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  • [–] 25 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    They start with closed source and will close the open source loop hole in a future bill. This is boiling frogs if anything.

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago

    It's even better than that - for them.

    With this bill the legislation is effectively now on the books but in a dormant state where it can be selectively activated at any future time and with whatever scope the 'working group' decide.

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  • [+] [S] -10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    Explainaturd in the room... Toxic positive optimist. No one wants to talk about the yankkee cartel and the gun and drug running it does. Inch by inch... they never do anything for the good. Billionares can make it happen capitain... they don't run things the way they you think.. You have no leverage. As long as they winning they don't care if the shits on fire. The 10% is on the spreadsheet. You no longer matter. They can make this happen... at least in the USA. Anything is possible in gang banger USA. Imperial boomerang... They create the problem to solve the problem.

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  • [–] 24 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Oooh, Louis Rossman is going to be PISSED * grabs popcorn *

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago

    Even if something like this were to actually come to fruition, I have to imagine that all it would really result in is kind of like when the EU used to have less strict guidelines on wireless technologies and in America you could just flash the European firmware to get longer range. Surely there will just be a New York specific firmware and then you can flash the firmware from somewhere else.

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  • [+] [S] -10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Scan "your design"...so goodbye to IP "intellectual property" / a new patentable idea..- imagine companies spending billions on developing new product...only to have it counterfeited by others I am so sick and tired of positive people. Sheep to the slaughter.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago*

    Meh, "Goodbye to IP" would be a good thing, lol. But of course, the corpos and businesses would be able to buy back their privacy. I.e., this ban and the scanning of 3D prints would be used to oppress the proletariat, to prevent our liberation specifically, as all States do. Intellectual property really has nothing to do with it.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 5 months ago*

    given the situation it is not good... ameriturds may never reach their full pontential.... we got a dum dum legacy so, fuck IP but yet we ain't got no fucking leverage and turdherd is going to go along with it like they always do. I knew the department of homeland security was just a fascist front. I remember 9/11 people ran wild... no one thought and they had no gawd damn framework. We are gettin dumber everyday. It is crazy paying attention and getting older. There is no war but the class war.

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  • [+] [S] -79 points 5 months ago (29 children)

    Progressive mandani where you at fool.... libturds larping as the left. Billionares are dominating you.

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  • [–] 59 points 5 months ago (19 children)

    Not exactly sure what the mayor of NYC can do re state regulations? But i don't live in the US, what do i know

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  • [+] [S] -70 points 5 months ago (15 children)

    The mayor is a democrat. The party as a whole is unified against the working class. They all lick the boots of capital. They all in on it. Businesses exist in NYC will go belly up and there designs will be owned and be used to train chatgipity. He is very much aware of this bill and is too much of a coward to say anything. He is only self intersted just like AOC. Just like obamas campain they are good at optics. It will affect his people. Look at trump hes got somthing to say about everything. We in america need real leaders asap.

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  • [–] 32 points 5 months ago

    I'd agree that the Democratic Party is decidedly corporatist, but it seems evident that Mamdani is a socialist, putting him on the extreme left of what is a centre-right party (do you remember how prominent democrats refused to endorse him?). And how do you know he's aware of this when not only is he responsible for running one of the greatest metropolises in the world, but the wording of this bill is, in your own words, hidden in s budget?

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  • [–] 51 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    I don't mean to be rude or start shit or anything, but are you maybe a little stupid?

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  • [–] [S] -4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Uh no I am not a right winger you are... but you in denial . Bad faith come on now... your tribe is wack

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  • Businesses exist in NYC will go belly up and there designs will be owned and be used to train chatgipity.

    Based, small business owners are enemies because small capitalists are still capitalists that need to be smashed. One less enemy to fight 😈

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago* (3 children)

    Would be nice if Mamdani commented on this, but there's not much he can legally do as the mayor of NYC. (Not a fan of Mamdani btw, just remarking that elected officials have jurisdiction over specific territory.)

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  • [–] [S] -2 points 5 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child)

    I'm not arguing that his hands are tied. I said "there's not much he can legally do as the mayor of NYC". Obviously it would be pretty based if he did like a direct action or something outside the law or even illegal...but people like that do not self-select to become elected politicians. I.e., it's not a personal flaw with Mamdani specifically, it's that all politicians self-select to be complicit in the bourgeois regime, and that politicians should not be considered vehicles of liberation.

    Again, I'm not defending Mamdani. I'm saying that he's a non-extraordinary example of a politician, who intrinsically, impersonally deserves our scorn 🏴🚩

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    [–] 36 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Because they do not want you fixing things you own, they do not even want you owning things you own. They just want you working until you are so exhausted you cannot think and spending everything you earn. A population that is practically incompetent does not have the tools to revolt.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 5 months ago

    They are taking our hammer and circle cut thing. Right from our hands. I think in the end... it will just be fascist fighting fascist inside the imperial core. These people have no sense of self preservation. That’s so sensational they cry and inch from the ledge.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago

    Haven't watched the video, but how does this work out in practice?

    How can a CNC differ between my own design and a design I've got from a homepage?

    Also, how can they block me from sharing my designs for fixing something on a device?

    I'm a quite flabbergasted how this should work

    Or is there no practical mechanism, only the law that makes everything illegal I try to fix?
    That would also be quite an asshole move, but who cares, when I fix a broken hinge in an old appliance?
    As long as I don't return it for warranty, the producer has pretty much no say, what I do with my fucking stuff...?

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    get back to work slaves!!

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I thought that New York with Mamdani would not do such things?

    How did this happen?

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Its a State Law, Mamdani is only the Mayor of NYC.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Oh thank you very much for this explanation.

    We need more progressives in positions of power.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago*

    I think we need to stop giving politicians power. We are far to lenient with the authorities and liberties we grant our politicians.

    For starters we need to start treating campaign promises as legally binding

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    [–] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    You realize the world is headed to a completely owned format that is constantly surveiled, and pretty soon our computers, phones, and everything electronic will just be screens that stream content or subscriptions from government owned data centers right?

    This post isn't even a joke.

    Our entire existence is going to be a tiered digital subscription plan. Regardless of left or right politics, because they are just two different sides of this monsters brain.

    God is dead. And we lived for and paid the organizations to keep killing it.

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  • [+] [S] -6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I hate democrats and I hate NYC....

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  • [–] [S] -4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I wounder what this proressive democrat turd has got to say. They keep killing industries and shoving chatgipity in everything. They are deskilling america and this fool argues with silly fascist online.

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