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[–] 81 points 1 year ago (29 children)

They try this every 5 years or so. Microsoft gives them some short term discounts and they come running back back.

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  • [–] 117 points 1 year ago (22 children)

    It's different this time around.

    The previous attempts were about freeing themselves from an abusive unprincipled data-hungry big data monopoly,

    This attempt is about freeing themselves from an abusive unprincipled data-hungry big data monopoly operating in a fascist country and in cahoots with the regime.

    I reckon it's serious this time.

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  • [–] 42 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    People are serious, I've never seen so many new users in the Linux groups I'm in

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Life long windows user. I switched to Arch a few months ago and I'm not looking back. Will only be using windows in a sandboxed VM if absolutely necessary. Which, I haven't needed to yet.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Life long windows user. I switched to Arch

    Fuck. That's like going straight from English breakfast tea to hash oil.

    I've been using Linux almost exclusively both in my personal and professional life for a decade and a half. I only installed Arch a month or two ago.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Hell, I'm in Silicon Valley here in California, and some of my friends are also jumping off the proprietary ship because those large firms are willing to work hand in hand with federal agencies.

    If you've read the NSA document disclosures by Edward Snowden, it's apparent that there is an open door for data requests. The current administration isn't a huge fan of California's diversity, so we might as well minimize our chances of being targetted...

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

    Other countries like that and Europe deals with are: Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Russia and of course, China.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    [Some*] Europeans just can’t get over their Arab and Muslim-hate despite neither Qatar nor Saudi Arabia posing any threat to Europe and actually being good trading partners. No tariffs, no restrictions, no unfair competition. They adopt many European standards and are a huge market for European goods and services. Yet still the hate is constantly being peddled.

    * hopefully a minority but the hate seems to be universal regardless of the political leaning.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    Are they democracies? No. Do they respect human rights? Also no.

    I don't care as much about them as I care about pointing out the hypocrisy of my people. I have a thing against islam but that has nothing to do with this conversation.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    You must have forgotten about why people were so mad at qatar in particular a while back. Remember how many workers died building the stadiums there for the world cup? If you're american i can understand you weren't aware of it since european football isn't exactly popular in america, but it was a huge deal over here with people protesting.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    The digital dependence on the US is much like the energy dependence on Russia.

    Europe is ditching Russian energy. They may ditch US tech.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I don't know about the whole Europe but Spain is buying more energy from Russia than before the war and sanctions.

    Don't get me wrong, I hope that would be the case but Europe is also Corporativist.

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  • [+] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago*

    The European Union regulates the market so much it's hard to call it capitalism, the biggest european companies are basically EU projects like Airbus (every government funds it) or too big too fail like Siemens and/or they would use: "strategic industry" and be done with it.

    Edit oh and I almost forgot it, or they are like Inditex, basically not European it's just an European getting rich while exploiting poor people all around the world, but I think this is actually capitalism and that guy isn't exactly appreciated by ruling dictator, I mean party, in Spain.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I'm putting my money on the EU becoming just as openly Fascistic as the US and sticking with Microsoft.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    People are downvoting you, but they're too scared to actually argue against it. I'm obviously hoping this isn't the case, but you'd be sticking your head in the sand if you said there was no chance of it happening.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I wouldn't be so sure this time around.

    The world is a big uncertainly and the force in Europe for digital sovereignty is something I never seen before.

    The initiative to protect Europes boarders and data information is justified.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Did you see the NATO conference? The EU is grovelling for the US. If Microsoft tells them to jump they will say how high

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    every user converted to linux is a win

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    Any bit of user base growth helps get the ball rolling for future MS/USA missteps. Linux has just been getting better and easier year after year. It's been a 30 year marathon ready for another 30+ years of development

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    Hopefully this helps increase adoption. Maybe in a few years GNU+Linux will have 10% of the desktop operating systems market. Maybe even Wine won’t be necessary anymore except for legacy software.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    It can't fail, unless MS pulls a monopoly stunt or bribe politicians... There's only a win, by ditching MS...

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    One alternative is that it only applies to companies that are listed as gatekeepers in the EU make it only hit megacorps

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Good F#$%^ riddance.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I can't wait until Lemmy's Peertube integration is released ^[1]^. Then, iiuc, this comment section should be able to happen directly on The Linux Experiment's videos within Lemmy.

    References

    1. Type: Comment. Author: "Nutomic". Publisher: [Type: Post. Title: "Better federation for Peertube content". Author: "Kalcifer" ("K4LCIFER"). Publisher: ["GitHub". "LemmyNet/lemmy".]. Published: 2023-08-06T21:41:29.000Z. URI: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3837.]. Published: 2025-03-27T08:28:52.000Z. Accessed: 2025-07-11T00:59Z. URI: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3837#issuecomment-2757172791.
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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Oh yeah that would be great. I hope it’s really coming🤞

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    […] I hope it’s really coming🤞

    A change regarding Peertube federation with Lemmy certainly does appear to be coming in Lemmy 1.0 ^[1]^, but it's currently unknown to me if it does actually fix the issue.

    References

    1. Type: Comment. Author: "Nutomic". Publisher: [Type: Post. Title: "Better federation for Peertube content". Author: "Kalcifer" ("K4LCIFER"). Publisher: ["GitHub". "LemmyNet/lemmy".]. Published: 2023-08-06T21:41:29.000Z. URI: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3837.]. Published: 2025-03-27T08:28:52.000Z. Accessed: 2025-07-14T06:03Z. URI: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3837#issuecomment-2757172791.
      • #5509 fixes this, it will be released as part of Lemmy 1.0

        • This is referring to code that was pushed to the repository that allegedly fixes the issue with Peertube federation.
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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Actually, most of them already do have deals for a limited time. Skype is still available; they needed a new contract since teams does not work without communicating with Microsoft.

    OTOH most things they do is via webclient.

    If Microsoft was to release a mandatory update that has a single thing that required it to communicate with the organization, by law the whole governmental EU would not be able to use it.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I think that if Linux is to be more widely adopted a more easily used distro needs to become mainstream. Let's face it, the average computer user barely knows how to use Windows, just because you find Linux easy doesn't mean they will.

    Do you think you could teach Linux to your grandmother?

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Do you think you could teach Linux to your grandmother?

    My 50+ yo mother uses Linux Mint daily with fewer problems that when she used Windows. Her crowning achievement in IT is learning how to use email.

    I helped my 93 yo friend switch from Windows 10 to Linux 2 years ago. He called me 3 times in the first 2 weeks to ask how to do something, but hasn't had a single problem since that's related to the OS.

    Linux Mint, Bazzite, Fedora, and several other Linux distros are already easier to use than Windows. The only thing holding most people back is fear of change.

    There are some people who have specific setups in Windows or a large number of "Windows only" apps, but these people are in the minority. The average person can't even tell you which operating system they're currently using, and wouldn't notice the difference if you swapped the OS but kept the same web browser.

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  • Both of my grandmothers are dead, but I did teach my aunt to use Linux. She had a laptop that "ran" Windows 10. It would take 30 seconds to open the Start menu. One SSD, one RAM upgrade and one install of Mint later it's a whole new machine. She can Firefox and Mahjongg just fine.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Actually, my mother knew how to use Debian before she could use Windows. Her first pc came with Windows XP, switched that for Debian as its been my main OS since 2000.

    Yes, you can teach your grandmother to use Linux.

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I am all for ditching Microsoft, but why should this post be in this community? There are also Android, Mac OS, and all kinds of BSD.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    None of what you listed is a viable alternative for a myriad of reasons. Only GNU+Linux can replace Windows.

    • Android: a mobile OS first and foremost with very limited usability as a general purpose desktop operating system.
    • MacOS: hardware from one vendor only.
    • *BSD: more niche with even lesser support than GNU+Linux.
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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    What's wrong with going back to pen and (e-)paper for office? My point is, if you are going to post something in the community, the word "linux" shall at least be in the title.

    Good title example: Europe is slowly ditching Microsoft for Linux

    It's nobody's fucking business when someone ditching Microsoft, then adopt BSD, Solaris whatnot. What matters to this community is someone adopting or ditching Linux, or they do something remotely related to it.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Didn't you see the "little" thumbnail that says "This could be huge for Linux"?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I don't. This is how it looks like on my Voyager.

    Point is (again), it takes zero effort to cross post a video or article here. Windows is historically having a high market share ratio, and people are migrating to Linux nowadays. That's good news to the Linux world. Even someone merely mentioning ditching Windows has an implication of adopting Linux instead.

    But what if more and more posts implying this by only mentioning how bad Windows is? Is this a community for Windows circlejerk, or do we share informative stuff that's directly related to Linux? How about we share more article about how great Linux is (or can be), instead of how bad the competitors are becoming?

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    [–] 25 points 1 year ago

    I dont see any issue moving away from Microsoft, in fact I see it as a better world. As the need to use Microsoft office to open government documents would vanish, free office for the masses

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    This guy does no investigation. He parrots whatever is trending

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Just going from the first couple of replies I'm going to go get the popcorn started to count how many people respond without watching the video first.

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    [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Um, why are you linking this from another instance? Here's the link to the original instance: https://tilvids.com/w/v4wYzqLEpaURCg6WP6bqtq

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  • Hi, the OP this was crossposted from here. The answer is simple: I am using PeerTube Companion, a Firefox add-on that automatically redirects me to my home instance when loading any PeerTube video - so I can easily comment and like and subscribe. So when using the "share" button or copy-pasting the link from the address bar, I will default to posting a link to my instance - in essence, it is the same video, loaded from the same source, federation being what it is.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    the decade of the linux desktop!!

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    [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    It will fail if we let it fail, we can decide that failure is not an option and figure out how to solve the problems

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    The fuck you mean why it could fail. We don't tell people to leave abusive relationships because the money isn't quite right or the timing is bad.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    My country went through several failed rounds of trying to unify systems used by police, courts, adminstrations... Cost us billions every time and never had anything to show for it. Maybe this will turn the tide.

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