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[–] 121 points 5 months ago (20 children)

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Anyone who believes this bullshit is a braindead moron. What are they going to do? Spread knowledge of how to develop a decent healthcare system that doesn’t financially burden patients?

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  • [+] -41 points 5 months ago (18 children)

    Along with how to destroy an entire's country economy, quality of life and democracy. I don't think either that Cuba represent any kind of threat to the US, but for a really different reason than you. You can't defend Baphomet just to fight Lucifer, because both are two pieces of shit. And how do I lnow this? Because I personally know Cubans, and my country is going in the same direction (and is more or less the same: Venezuela).

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  • [+] -8 points 5 months ago (13 children)
  • [–] 25 points 5 months ago (9 children)

    You realize the rest of the world has been able to freely travel to Cuba and come back safe and sound since the 60s, right? Like...

    We have been suffering the 42 years I’ve been alive [...] It’s the kind of hell you risk anything to escape!

    ?????? How the fuck do 4.7 million people visit/year on cruise ships and air planes if Cuba is suffering? I know many Canadian-Cubans that visit family and have families that visit Canada no problem.

    Americans believe so much bullshit propaganda about our country

    Yeah, and you're literally one of them lmao

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago* (4 children)

    That's a rather weak argument. Rich people travel to plenty of dangerous places. Those places typically then develop high class resorts with security to attend to them

    Don't mistake my comment to be saying the US is right about Cuba. It absolutely isn't. I just don't think "people travel there" is much of an indicator of anything

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    It's not just in-bound tourism, I probably made the mistake of emphasizing the cruises. Notice I said that Cubans from outside of America were able to travel to visit family, and vice-versa. If it was such a hellscape, why would people choose to travel back to Cuba after leaving?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    If it was not a hellscape why would Cubans still be leaving to declare asylum elsewhere?

    Both that claim and your claim are verifiable and true. So clearly there's something going on that's not as simple as "is this country a good or bad place to live". The answer seems to be it depends. Clearly there is some kind of wealth disparity within the country.

    Some would argue these immigrants were the formally wealthy class fleeing the revolution, and that was initially true. But that was just over 60 years ago now. This doesn't explain modern asylum seekers very well.

    To be fair I think a lot of Cuba's struggles and failures are a direct result of decades of US embargo and interference.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Some would argue these immigrants were the formally wealthy class fleeing the revolution, and that was initially true. But that was just over 60 years ago now. This doesn’t explain modern asylum seekers very well

    To be fair I think a lot of Cuba’s struggles and failures are a direct result of decades of US embargo and interference.

    This I can agree with. I don't think Cuba is like...HEAVEN for people living there, by the way. But I also disagree that it was an "absolute hellscape" before the Trump Admin 1.0 came in and destroyed any forward momentum the Obama administration created towards fully lifting the embargoes, and I don't think (as far as I know) the Biden administration did as much to reverse them. The last 12 years is really what has cemented the hardships in Cuba (and Puerto Rico, Venezuela, Nicaragua etc) are suffering from, and this is reflected in the stories of the (non-American) Cubans I hear from daily around me.

    Then you have fuckers like Rubio pushing for taking over Cuba "for their own good" and to "save the country" and like... I'm sorry if I feel like residual bitterness of my Cuban friends and family towards American Cubans pushing this narrative colour my view.

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  • [–] -2 points 5 months ago

    In fact; is committing a fallacy of intransitivity, that's a type of non sequitur fallacy.

    And that's how it is in Cuba and in my country too, and that's why I'm able to believe that about Cuba in the first place.

    The Cuban and Venezuelan governments are the same: the vast majority of the population is below the global thresholds of extreme poverty, in a very precarious situation, where basic services do not work most of the time (in my country we are privileged compared to Cuba; here at least water can reach us from time to time, even if it takes a long time [normally more than a month; although the duty is that it is always present], and the electricity is cut off 8 hours a day [at least that is how it is in the state] where alive], but there is almost no drinking water service and the normal thing is that there is no electricity; they can be without electricity service for more than 18 hours); but obviously they are not going to demonstrate that just as in Brazil they are not going to show you the Favelas, they directly create tourist areas that are a bubble isolated from the reality of the country. It is simply a political ploy to pretend that everything is fine, a facade.

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  • [–] -3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

    So what you're really saying is that Cuba's being economically propped up by the thick rope of tourism, without which it would quickly collapse, right?

    Edit: um, guys, it's called rhetoric... This is not my actual viewpoint lol...

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I know many Canadian-Cubans that visit family and have families that visit Canada no problem.

    Love how you ignored this part and focused on whatever was beneficial for propping up your worldview

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  • [–] 50 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    I'm like 99.9% sure Donald J Trump is a national security liability and threat?

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] [S] 67 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    How many distractions does this regime need from the Epstein files?

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    The capitalist and political class of the entire western world and it's allied countries were exposed as covering up for and being pedophiles.

    This isn't a distraction. People like you and me in the working class gave them permission to stop the charade when we didn't chop off their heads. It's not a distraction. It's a continuation of it.

    They are telling you bluntly that there will be no justice without us taking it by force. They are killing innocent children NOW in Iran, Palestine, Lebanon, and Cuba. They are separating children from their parents and putting them in concentration camps on our own soil. Do you think that's a distraction?

    The only distraction that is working is the same comment (like yours) being posted over and over that seems to weigh the importance of past crimes more heavily than the ones they are enacting now and boasting about on the news. Start caring more about the "distractions" and one day we might get vengeance for all of the children this class of pedophiles makes suffer.

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  • [–] 25 points 5 months ago

    If you don't have evidence or reason, just claim "National Security".

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago

    Manufacturing consent

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago

    If Cuba is a threat, Hegseth really must've done an inconceivably bad job.

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Self hate right here. His parents were cuban immigrants. 🙄

    If not self hate, then a serious lack of self intestinal fortitude. Either way…

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    Self hate right here. His parents were cuban immigrants.

    Most of the hardline anti-Castro people in the US are, I think, Cuban-American. That's typically the reason that they're in the US.

    I don't know if that's a factor for Rubio in particular, but "person with Cuban background living in the US who is very unhappy with the Castro regime" is not an oddity.

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    [–] 16 points 5 months ago
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    the US is a bunch of absolute pussies, apparently

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago

    The island that is currently living in a pre electric society is a threat?

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    Yes I bet Cuba is about as much a threat as Greenland is, and Greenland is a NATO ally!

    Fuck the Satanist Americans (under the guise of Christianity) for causing human suffering around the globe.
    They even do it at home too, and apparently Americans think that's how things should be. 🤡 🤮

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago

    If Cuba is a threat, then any country, group, or individual can be deemed a threat to their national security. Sounds like a whole lot of INSECURITY.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago

    Same stupid fucking playbook every time....

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Everything is a national security threat.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    If anything, the US could learn some things from Cuba. They could certainly stop bullying them for the first time in decades

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago* (3 children)

    I love the semantic shenanigans that "risk" and "threat" sorts use -- Risk is totally just snake oil.

    "They're a threat!", sure... a low risk, insignificant threat. But still technically a threat. You can claim anything is a threat, given that risk assessments are totally subjective silly things. "We've identified flying pigs as a threat in our risk registry, so we gotta invest billions into an anti-flying pig slush fund! Security!!"

    The states has been openly boasting about the numerous international war crimes its been committing for the past two years. No other country has challenged them directly on it, and few have even voiced their disagreement, out of fear of economic repercussions. No one is a threat to the US, except the US and its idiotic people / administration. Its partly why their self-destruction in international politics is so tragic.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

    But still technically a threat.

    Yes, but Realistically no, Cuba never did anything that harmed USA in any meaningful way.
    USA however has massively harmed Cuba for 70 years now.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    Threat verbiage allows for non-threats to still be called threats, that's the point of what I was highlighting. Flying pigs are not a threat, they don't exist -- dragons are not a threat, they don't exist either. You can still throw them on a Risk Registry/Threat listing, and call them a threat, because there's no definitive, objective, quantifiable process for determining what a threat is.

    So yes, you can say Cuba is a threat. Even though for all practical purposes it isn't a "real" threat or a credible threat, you can still put it on a list and declare it 'technically' a threat to US national security. Just like you could put flying pigs on that list, or dragons, even though neither of those things exist, nor would any sane person think theres a real risk of america falling due to flying pig attacks -- if they're on a threat list, they're a threat.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    Fucking USA, they are saying that for 60+ years. From their beloved president JFK to the current president, no difference, same shit, "I took what I want".

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    Nation state DARVOing

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Osama Bin Laden and most of 9/11 perpetrators were Saudis, aren’t they?

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Gee, I wonder how it got that way…

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    If I was a big country with a mighty military and more money than God, I'd be scared too. /s

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    I guess the previous war didn't last until the elections, so time for another. On the bright side, it seems like most of our politicians here in Europe are done with joining these pointless tragedies.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Well the yanks did just find out they're literally incapable of winning a war so maybe they should be scared.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    This is new news? Cuba has been Cuba for how many decades?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago