Where do you recommend for pen purchases? In the past I've used Goulet but there was a post (maybe here?) awhile back about them that inclined me to not give them money any more.

Background : I teach a class about once a year and I like to gift my graduating students a pen because I find it unique and interesting - you don't see fountain pens much anymore. I usually go with a Lamy Safari (but am up for recommendations on similar starter pens; see bottom). In the past they (Lamy) sold a gift set that was the pen and 5 or so of the disposable cartridges in various colors (no Z28 included) and that was my go-to. They don't appear to sell that particular product anymore so I'd reverted to just the standalone Safari and including one extra disposable cartridge since I have quite a few but don't use them.

Preferably a US based distributor.

While we're at it, any suggestions for a good, comparable, starter pen besides the Lamy Safari? Around $30 USD is my max price range since some times I have up to 15 students and that gets... pricey : ) Main consideration is that it's a decent pen that won't frustrate new users but something nicer than a disposable (EG: Pilot Varsity).

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[–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

Vanness is the only pen store I've ever needed. Great group of people over there. https://vanness1938.com/

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    @clif if you’re in the PNW/Oregon seasidepenshop.com/ — I’ve gotten some really fun stuff from them, including a bunch of rare Lamys, but in general the price of everything fountain pen has jumped up due to the tariffs.I think Goulet/goldspot/vanness might be running dads and grads deals over Memorial Day weekendTeam “give them safaris” since they’re super easy to swap nibs on (and lamy also makes lefty friendly nibs)

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    I apparently have driven right past that location on the way from WA down to Cannon Beach - had no idea it was there. Though, it's been many, many years since I lived in that area.

    Thanks for the info and the input on the Safari. I had no idea they made lefty nibs, luckily I'm not personally afflicted by the southpaw curse ; D

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    @clif Seaside Pens just got up and running in the last year, and she just opened her brick and mortar store this year, so you didn’t miss it; it was probably a knickknack shop at the time.The various Safaris/Studios/Scalas from Lamy all use the same nib type, and have similar nib swap directions youtube.com/watch?v=i82pPFCkpGI — new nibs are mostly about $15 for steelFound the drama on the goulets on a Reddit thread: reddit.com/r/fountainpens/comm — I’m not surprised

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    @clif I wish I could say I was surprised by the Goulet situation but since they defended the Noodlers guy (libertarian, fan of conspiracy theories, cultural appropriation with his ink names) it tracks.🫠 ah well. I’ll have to find other places to buy obnoxious inks than Goulet

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I can't say I've dealt with them, but I've heard a lot of good things about Atlas Stationers, and have thought they would likely be the store that I started working with to maintain a regular supply of stationery goods.

    I have ordered from Goldspot Pens once, and they did a good job, no complaints.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago* (3 children)

    I don't buy fountain pens there


    despite following this community, I use only a handful of very inexpensive fountain pens, and am not a very "serious" fountain penner


    but I have purchased other types of pens from jetpens.com and I've been fine with the experience.

    https://www.jetpens.com/

    Looks like they're based in Texas and have free US shipping over $35.

    As for Goulet, I haven't purchased pens from them, but in the past I have enjoyed looking at their ink samples and watching their fountain pen YouTube videos. Looks like they're in Virginia and have free US shipping over $99.

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    Have you looked into the Pilot Explorer/Lightive? It runs about $20, and has a really nice nib. The Pilot Metropolitan shares the same nib assembly, is a metal pen, but can run a little bit more expensive. If you're willing to pick one up from Amazon/AliExpress/Etsy, the Hongdian 1851 is less than $20, metal, and a great writing experience. It even comes with a converter, so you're not stuck with cartridges.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I hadn't seen the Pilot Explorer - looks pretty nice for the price, I'll add it to the list.

    I'd looked into the Metropolitan before and almost got one for myself but I feel like I've already got too many pens. It is just slightly over my price point but will keep it on the list for when I have a small class.

    Thank you

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 5 months ago

    O, I just realized I'd missed the Hongdian 1851 suggestion when making my list. That is a pretty great looking pen for the price... I'm intrigued.

    I do try to avoid amazon and ali when I can but next time I make an order I might need to throw one of these in to check it out. Thanks again.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    @clif For students it's hard to go wrong with Pilot Kakunos.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    @clif Cardinal Pens and PaperTruphaeVannessAtlasJetPens If you're near Chapel Hill NC, Crazy Alan's EmporiumA nice starter pen is the Pilot Explorer.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    @clif vanness, goldspot, cultpens, endless pens, jetpens. I also get a lot of pens on AliExpress platinum preppy is a great starter pen and very cheap. jinhao 82s are also excellent

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 5 months ago

    I have a couple of Jinhao's that I picked up 5 or 6 years ago but I don't recall the models. One had a bad seal so it would leak a little but the other has been "good enough" though.

    Just checked and the goodish one is a X750. It's hard to describe how I don't particularly like the "feel" of it but it works and was quite cheap so it is the one that goes with me on trips since I wouldn't be too terribly sad if I lost or damaged it : )

    Adding cultpens.com to the list!

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I'll bite: what did you read about Goulet?

    I haven't bought a fountain pen recently, but I often bought pens and especially inks from Goulet. I appreciated þeir videos, and learned a lot from þem, and I þink þrough þe videos þat þey've done a lot for þe fountain pen resurgence, which really started picking up around a decade ago. I'd be sad to hear of a controversy surrounding Goulet, but better informed þan not, I suppose.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Long story short, the Goulets helped start a chapter of a very right-wing, anti-LGBTQ+ church, so you can figure that 10% of everything you spend with them will end up funding hate.

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