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[–] 21 points 5 months ago (1 child)

If this is what we know about, just imagine what they're doing that we haven't found yet.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago

    Why? No point in wasting time and energy on what ifs, we need to be stopping the immediate harm now and launching probes and investigations at the scale of the entire industry beneath the compromised TCEQ regulatory body.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    Well... Texas really does like to keep voting for its own poison. I encourage those in the ditches fighting this bullshit.

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    [–] 66 points 5 months ago (30 children)

    So just clog the pipe and wait by it. A goon will show up.

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Attest the goon, make a deal for them to call a supervisor out.

    Keep going until there are no more supervisors left in the company and the ladder is bare.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    "Hey, Bill, that new intern you hired? Yeah send him to the police station right away, I've got a new job title for him."

    "Alright officer, let me introduce you to our Executive Vice President of Environmental Operations, uhhh, what did you say his name was again?"

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  • [+] -7 points 5 months ago (26 children)

    Technically more illegal to block the pipe then to discharge illegally.

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago (17 children)

    Well the next part of the plan was to beat whoever comes out to check on it with a baseball bat so

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (16 children)

    I mean if you want it to stay that's a great way to accomplish that. Cities and states protect businesses, it's what they do. What you need to do is create a public nuisance in bringing light and thus exposure to it. Damaging it or slowing business will not win you at friends with the government and in fact they may call it legal just to spite you.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (15 children)

    Thats not how you wage class warfare

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (14 children)

    Well first you don't make comments and second you stop it upstream so you don't cause a catastrophe for no particular reason and become the bad guy yourself.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (13 children)

    Do you think that by clogging data center pipes the community would somehow be harmed? Or by beating OpenAI employees with baseball bats we'd somehow harm the community? You're angle seems to be violence = bad when we have only ever earned human rights through violence.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (12 children)

    I think it's likely that it causes power blackouts effecting the community and potentially ecological disasters could happen, we don't know.

    No I'm saying shut it down at the source and don't Babe Ruth your felonies.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (11 children)

    Alright, right, right, and what is this source you speak of? Is it akin to a spigot we can simply turn off? Or is it a mass of folks with capital and no morals trying to wax easy bucks off a regime thats hostile to its own people?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (10 children)

    You're not under the impression a random pipe has sprung forth from the ground like spring grass are you? No? Then the source is obviously wherever the pipe starts.

    You're calling for violence, use your brain the math on this one really really isn't hard and I've basically spelled it out for you as much as I can without causing legal issues for myself.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (9 children)

    There we go! You admitted it! You're scared.

    I'm sure the miners at Blair Mountain were, too.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    So trolling and poorly at that? Get a life bud.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (7 children)

    Last I checked you responded to me originally all scared

    "Sir, the government says thats illegal! The federal agents will surely apprehend us posthaste!"

    Whose really trolling here? You sound ridiculous.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (6 children)

    Woah we found a tough guy here who wants to go to prison. Neat, you're special and unique, are we done here?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (5 children)

    Do you know nothing of worker's rights in America? How it came to be? Nobody asked nicely. The government dropped bombs on its own people to prevent us from stopping corporate scrip and extreme exploitation, and even then it was exported instead. So Idk what you think will happen if we stay in our lanes, but I can tell you that you won't be getting any rights that way, just more oppression. So go ahead and feel morally superior when all you are doing is satisfying your need to keep your head down and safe.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (4 children)

    No one said ask nicely. Stop winding yourself up bruv.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

    I mean if you want it to stay that’s a great way to accomplish that. Cities and states protect businesses, it’s what they do. What you need to do is create a public nuisance in bringing light and thus exposure to it. Damaging it or slowing business will not win you at friends with the government and in fact they may call it legal just to spite you.

    Actually you did, right here. This is asking nicely. Not asking nicely would be clogging the pipe and beating anyone who tries to fix it. Thats called praxis.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    Your reading comprehension is lackluster or you're intentionally trying to rage about some random shit you've created in your head.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago* (7 children)

    No, it really isn't. In fact, leaving in place an uncontrolled and unpermitted immediate risk to human health and safety would be negligence. It may very well be more illegal to do nothing about the pipe.

    There are many cases where local authorities allow ground contamination end up paying reparations and settlements for many decades after the fact.

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  • [–] -2 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    It is. One is illegal dumping the other is industrial sabotage.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    The Texas Drainage District owns the Ditch. They had no idea the pipe was there.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Doesn't matter. You can't just block a pipe downstream even if it's illegal. I know it sounds stupid but there's a chance blocking it causes a much much larger disaster upstream of the plug.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    It matters a lot, you cannot just allow illegal pollution which poses immediate harm to human life and the environment. If the pipe were installed correctly then it will backflow in the factory, but if you're that worried you can feel free to contact the company and tell them that the drainage pipe has been sealed.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    There's a difference between stopping something and recklessly interfering. Destruction of property doesn't actually care if the pipe is there legally nor does industrial sabotage. You're committing the arrestable offense not them unfortunately.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    You're operating under this idea that you can be tried for an action which prevent immediate harm, and that's just completely false.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    You're assuming there's immediate harm, you can't commit a crime and use the excuse that they did it first. The only thing you'd be doing is committing a felony in basically every state, what they're doing is also potentially felonious but you need to prove that first and seek civil solutions first to prevent getting yourself a one way trip to prison.

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  • [–] 33 points 5 months ago

    I am sure justice will be served in 4 years as a $3.5M (if Tesla is not lucky) fee.

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  • [–] 23 points 5 months ago* (3 children)

    What happened next, across the four months that followed, ...

    The Texas Commission on Environmental Quality, the state environmental regulator known as TCEQ, had quietly issued Tesla a wastewater discharge permit on January 15, 2025. The permit, a Texas Pollutant Discharge Elimination System authorization known as TPDES, allowed up to 231,000 gallons of treated wastewater per day to be discharged into an unnamed ditch that flows into Petronila Creek and from there into Baffin Bay, a longtime South Texas saltwater fishing destination.

    The drainage district that manages the ditch the pipe was discharging into was never notified that the permit existed. Its workers found out the way drainage district workers in any small Texas county find out about things: by walking the ditch and seeing something new.

    ...heavy metals were not tested because they had not been part of the original complaint the district filed

    ...the drainage district had already hired its own attorney and commissioned its own independent test.

    Gonna skip the results for length, see article.

    The cease-and-desist letter has not yet been answered. TCEQ has not reopened its investigation. Tesla is still operating the plant. The pipe is still discharging. None of this is illegal as currently constituted, because the permit that was written does not require monitoring for the things the independent lab found.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Wouldn't it be a shame if some miscreantsheroes from impacted communities connected a high pressure concrete pump into the pipe and filled it with fast-curing concrete?

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    [–] 39 points 5 months ago

    Truly fulfilling the American dream

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    Time for Greg Abbott to step in and make it illegal for them to do anything about it.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago

    "Ain't nuthin to see here, boys! Just Capitalism naturally dominating as Jesus commanded, YEE-HAW"

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Sigh. Is it time to deport Elon yet?

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    [–] 35 points 5 months ago

    I'm sure Elon will get out of both correcting the problem and paying any fines.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    Come and listen to a story

    about a man named Jed

    A poor mountaineer, barely

    kept his family fed,

    And then one day he was

    shootin at some food,

    And up through the ground

    came a bubblin crude.

    Oil that is, black gold, Texas tea.

    …..

    I should go now

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Lol. If you can get away with it, go ahead. Its as american as apple pie.

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