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[–] 148 points 5 months ago (22 children)

Wow this could have actually happened:

Previously, Messi claimed he was too nervous to answer questions in English, despite taking language lessons since 2020, as per an interview with journalist Guillem Balague. "I've been learning English for a year and a half. I understand it, but I don't speak it," he said in 2021.

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  • [–] 91 points 5 months ago (19 children)

    Funny, it really is easier to get the gist of what someone is saying in a foreign language that one has some familiarity with, but constructing a sentence with the correct words and grammar is a completely different game.

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago* (3 children)

    So very much this, I've been living in a foreign country for 6 months now and taking language classes. I can eavesdrop better than just about any other skill. Including understanding when spoken to directly.

    Doesn't help basically everyone speaks English.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    I get this with my native language which country I still live in, Sweden, because I'm stuck at home the vast majority of the time due to illness and basically only read and watch things in English. So when I do get out I often forget Swedish words and have generally speak badly, it's kinda funny.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago

    Yep. Reading a book or watching a movie in Spanish is as easy as English to me. Speaking? I can definitely hold a conversation but it won't be fluid or elegant at all.

    To be fair I spend a ton more time listening to Spanish than speaking it. Consuming content is easy, social interactions hard lmao

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago

    It blows my mind because my wife can hear and read other languages and translate it with insane accuracy, but she wouldn't be able to hold a conversation.

    My English speaking brain can't do it.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I'm the opposite with Japanese, at least. I can construct sentences and know what to say, but when native speakers talk to me, I just can't follow well at all.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    How did you learn it? I'm actually curious because that would probably explain why.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Sometimes it can be the opposite as well, because missing a key word or two renders all the other stuff you understood in the sentence basically useless. If you understood "He has a new X and he's gonna try Y tomorrow," you got everything except the gist, but constructing basic sentences doesn't take all that much study.

    Anyway, I'd recommend not trying to do Japanese through immersion.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Japanese has a cheat code though. If you try to say English words with a Japanese accent they can mostly understand you. Words like hamburger and strawberry are a good example.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    The huge number of loanwords is a bit of a boon, but the benefits are canceled out by the small amount of sounds in the language. There are so many homophones and words with similar sounds that learning vocab is really difficult.

    Also it was years before I found out that hambaagaa is a hamburger and hambaagu is a meat patty on a plate.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I'm curious how it is for other languages, but I find that in English I can usually understand someone trying to explain something using incorrect words and bad grammar if we go at it long enough

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    I think English is very context driven where I find other languages much more specific and precise. The word “cool” for instance can probably have a dozen different meanings depending on context so perversely IMO simple English can be sorted out by feel more easily where other languages are less tolerant of that.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Tonal languages are probably harder to make sense.

    When you say "Ma" in Mandarin you could mean 4 different things.

    So if I was trying to say "I like my horse" or "I like my mother" you'd say "I like my ma". Unless you had context you wouldn't know what I was trying to say if I didn't use the correct tone.

    English tones give extra information.

    "I LIKE my horse" or "I like MY horse".

    One you could like your horse, other you might really LIKE your horse.

    "I go store" vs "I am going to go to the store now". The meaning isn't really lost.

    English is hard because speaking it well is complex. There are dozens of way to say "walked"

    Did the man stroll down the street? Strut, marched, trudged, shuffled, stumbled, hobbled, or etc.

    Someone that doesn't know English well would understand that the man hobbling down the street means that the man went down the street. But hobbling has the idea that the man is injured. If they were trying to describe the man limping down the road they would be thrown off thinking about how they could describe it as hobbled. "The man walked with a limp down the street" or "The man limped as he walked down the street"

    Then there's things like "The man hobbled down Bourbon Street" now you get the idea that he is hobbling because of being intoxicated rather than injured.

    But getting the general idea is pretty simple. "Man go road"

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Yeah, I remember going through that period when started learning English, but also attending other classes that I was passionate about and didn't want to wait.

    I understood everything the teacher said, but tough luck if I had any question. I remember trying to ask once and teacher trying to figure out what I was asking.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I think anybody who's bilingual or attempting to learn another language or done some duolingo classes can relate to a degree.

    Reading/writing, speaking, and listening can feel like different skills.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    There's also, at least for Spanish but probably for other languages too, a significant difference between the academic version and the colloquial version.

    I assume it's sort of like if you, as an English speaker, only spoke as if you were composing a college essay.

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  • [–] 124 points 5 months ago (13 children)

    A version of this happened to me when I was young. I was lucky enough to be invited to dinner with a famous scientist. I spent a good chunk of time pitching my work (looking for a faculty position). At the end of the night he apologized and said he was sure I was very interesting but he couldn't hear over the music.

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  • [–] 61 points 5 months ago (12 children)

    I absolutely hate places with "background" music that isn't in the background.

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (11 children)

    Restaurants that properly handle noise are awesome. Busy ones can get loud even without music, but if they take steps to address sound reverberation, it can make a huge difference.

    Some places are so loud, employees should be required to wear hearing protection.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    There’s a brewery near me that gets so loud that my ears are ringing when I leave. And they don’t play background music. I don’t go there anymore

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (9 children)

    Noise deadening material that isn't also incredibly flammable is very expensive.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Not exactly true, Rock wool is a great material for this purpose and is cheap and safe. It's just that these products originated in the high end music world for recording studios or fancy setups in millionaire houses, so they just charge whatever they want.

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  • [–] -2 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Damn wish there was some other solution...

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    What exactly are you trying to say?

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    And they don’t play background music.

    They said there is no music, it's just loud people.

    Maybe less snark, more reading comprehension next time?

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  • [–] 89 points 5 months ago

    Smile and wave boys, smile and wave

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Still would fit better in a Game of thrones episode.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago

    Maybe he should try speaking out loud.

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  • [–] 28 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    He’s either a dick or a fool. I wouldn’t give two minutes to someone that’s okay being in Trump's orbit.

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  • [–] 50 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Messi. He visited the white house not too long ago as PR for the world cup, and also to highlight the diplomatic ties between Trump and Javier Milei.

    http://archive.today/2026.03.14-115307/https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/13/world/americas/argentina-soccer-messi-trump.html

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    This is bad, but in his defence it seems like he was obligated to go as part of the teams duties, as opposed to choosing this. I know he has an option to speak out and refuse, especially with his profile, but he's always been shy and quiet. All he wants to do is play football.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    he was also activly hiding money to evade taxes. I think he is not the golden boy every one thinks he is.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    Messi cabron traidor, quien te mandó a la casa blanca

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    Watching Messi is like watching real-life magic. Doesn't even make sense half the time.

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  • [+] -10 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I just find it funny that Messi has been in the public eye since he was a teenager but nobody ever bothered to make him learn English.

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  • [–] -2 points 5 months ago

    Thats the only reason he spent 5 min w that annoying ginger.

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