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[–] 71 points 6 months ago (15 children)

I wish it was easier to leave and immigrate. It's actually incredibly arduous to get all the paperwork needed for a passport, work visas, international application, etcetcetc.

Especially if you have family. Especially if you don't have a perfect little life. Needing to get documents or information from shitty relatives.... Try getting birth certs when you don't know where to look. You need that for a passport. Try getting a child a passport when their biofather is an absentee.

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  • [–] 40 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I'm assuming you're from the US based on your post. If so, you should be able to obtain a copy of your birth certificate online directly from the state you were born in for a small fee. Search online for "(your state) vital records." No shitty relative interaction required.

    The passport thing for a child with absentee parents is a bit more difficult but can be done. I believe you need either a notarized affidavit or court order to accompany the child's passport application. Good luck.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    yea you can buy your certificate online, but you will have to be willing to give up more data about yourself than you like. i think your local city agency cost alot less. i gave up after i found my original , since the online one was in limbo because they couldnt confirm my moms maiden name for some reason, since she was born in china, it complicated things, because it ended up confusing them and they want more proof.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    Well...they need to find the exact certificate. Of course they're going to ask for more information. And it's a legal document, of course they want to verify certain things.

    I've ordered dozens of birth, marriage, and death certificates online(family tree) from different cities and different countries. Most are pretty painless and there was only one that has given me a bunch of shit for it and it's Orange County in California.

    Your situation I can definitely see adding more confusion into the mix and I'm sorry to hear that, but nothing you've said so far has been obscene from my experience.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    I somehow managed it a few years ago. Doing it during COVID wasn't fun, say that much.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    We desperately want out of the US so I've been trying to find a tech job in Ireland since 2024. I've had one interview in that time... how did you do it?

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)

    It's possible to get jobs in other countries with English-only. Sorry I don't have specifics, and of course that isn't a guarantee, but I know this to be true at least in the Nordics. Some companies even communicate in English internally.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    I have a British parent, got the passport about 15 years ago. Unfortunately my wife and child need visas to live here, we have to deal with that in a couple months again, and continue until they're eligible for leave to remain. I think my kid can naturalize in a while, but my wife will need to seek citizenship if Reform gets into power.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Honestly, just get the citizenship now, rather than later (if feasible); I know it's a different country so things certainly aren't a necessary one-to-one but my mom's side of the family is all immigrants and, while it might not be safe for much longer in the U. S., I'm thankful every day we're not dealing with a much more immediate Hell because they all got their citizenship finally 10–15 years ago, when conditions were much less pressing.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    You're probably right. She's still a little burnt out on high stakes testing after going back through uni for a new career, but we'll probably seek it as soon as they're both eligible.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Have you tried recruitment agencies? They're unusually popular here and might help you get over the hump.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I've sent emails to fourteen different recruitment agencies based in Ireland, places like:

    redchairrecruitment.ie gcsltd.com/ireland randstad.ie

    I used erfireland.com to search for recruitment agencies and just went down the list sending emails. The only one to respond was red chair and they essentially said "you're in the US so you're fucked, glhf".

    If you know of one (or twenty) I could try, please do send them my way!

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Sorry for the delay. It's been a while since I looked for a job so I'm not entirely sure. Have you a particular focus in tech? The last place I worked for did hire foreign workers and got their visas sorted. If you're in cyber for example there's quite a shortage here in that particular field but in general there are lots of multinationals here and experience is highly valued.

    jobs.ie is the big jobs marketplace but I'm sure you've come across that already.

    Also, and you're probably aware of this, if you have an Irish grandparent it's Irish passport time. My sister is quite a bit older than me and her grandkids all have Irish passports even though she lives abroad.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    No worries, you're not obligated to answer me haha. I'm the lead software engineer on an important fincancial web and desktop app so my focus would be full stack dev with leadership and travel experience. Coming up on ten years experience outside university this year. I've done encryption, safe coding practices, and even have my COMPTIA Security+ certification but I wouldn't say I have cyber security experience specifically.

    I check jobs.ie and irishjobs.ie every day, as well as several other sites like ie.indeed and Glassdoor.ie. The best site I've found so far, hands down, is visasponsor.jobs; they usually only show positions which specifically mention sponsoring visas. There's currently only 24 positions showing on their site and I've either applied to them or don't have the skills.

    I simply don't have parents/grandparents to ask about my heritage. I'm quite certain my grandparents lived and died here in the states based on the information I've found. Though, 23andme says I ~90% come from London/Dublin area so I suppose it's not impossible they were born elsewhere and the documents either don't exist or aren't accessible to me.

    Feel free to dm me, especially if you might recommend me to a position! (or if you just wanna be friends, of course)

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago*

    i think you can try your states human services, or just type in how to get birth certificate, there is an online paid way, but it requires to pay more than in person, and give up more details about yourself. passports, you will have to schedule that asap(assuming you renewd within 10-15years) since appts are booked like weeks,months in advanced.

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  • [–] 51 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Got the musk picture perfect. He looks demented and incredibly stupid

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  • [–] 43 points 6 months ago*

    It legit breaks my heart to hear stories of people like Jane Yang Wu (neuroscientist) and Wang Danhao (semiconductor researcher) killing themselves after facing racially motivated harassment from the government.

    When I was young, I had this idealistic dream of getting into science for the benefit of all humanity. Racism has absolutely no place in science. Aside from having no place anywhere, it's such a perversion of the ideals so many people hold. Of course it's also stupid and self defeating because of brain drain.

    The US seems to be fully committed to returning to mideval times.

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  • [–] 39 points 6 months ago

    I was watching a deep space nine episode about a Holodeck program where a spy character comes up against a super villain.

    The super villain had captured the worlds top scientists and was destroying the planet to make a private island where he could and the scientist could start again. It was very Ayn Rand coded and reminded me of Elon Musk and other billionaire Capitalist Fascists ruining the planet.

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  • [–] 22 points 6 months ago* (10 children)

    So the Nazis went to USA & are now sneaking back to Europe?

    (The above was ofc sarcasm, but the rise of altrightbullshittery in EU is kinda scary.)

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  • [–] 32 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    My personal opinion is that alt-right is rising world-wide because democratic governments forgot that the way we eradicated radical ideologies post-ww2 was through making life of average person bearable. Radical ideologies can't find fertile ground among people who own their own homes, who can support whole family with a single job.

    And if current solution to alt-right will be to just start wars, raise taxes and double down on policing... it will only give them more fuel.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    Fascism is a top-down ideology. It happens when capitalists feel that ordinary people are close to demanding a more equitable society, and they use it to divide society and assert their own authority. It is often described as a petit-bourgoise ideology because that is where the fascist capitalists find the most fertile ground - people who used to be able to afford a good life, but who can't anymore. Of course, the irony is that the reason they can't afford a good life is because the capitalists are siphoning off more and more of the wealth.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I think (the reason to what are you describing, and that I agree with) it's more to do with how in any democracy needs constant work from the people (not once evey few years a popularity contest) & how it's always, at all times naturally threatened by individuals seeking power. If you one too many times don't act in time you get an autocratic gov (that it might take a lot more than voting to defeat).

    Basically oblivious demos vs the rich class radicalising political/pubic systems (deregulation etc) so serve their short-term financial gain.

    I recently watched this NOVA bit about power struggles in Athens (something I knew about prob 30 years ago):
    dailymotion.com/xa7xuec

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Constant work on democracy is not really possible for people who already spend way too much time of the day surviving, working.

    And those who don't need to work to survive probably aren't that interested in democracy working...

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    Interesting points, and while I am not convinced that all the far-right needs is just existence of "nasty foreigners", I'd like to thank you for bringing this up.

    Especially since the idea of "party going down and imploding under weight of it's own corruption and incompetence" is something that in my country (Poland) happened already to all sides of political spectrum.

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago

    History keeps showing what happens when a country pushes away its scientists, teachers, and thinkers.

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    But this doesn't necessarily mean that Europe has tons of science jobs to offer, esp. for the usually young people who use the fediverse.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago*

    stem jobs are pretty much hard to come by , theres very little job market even in the states for fresh graduates, hence the unemployment problems, since alot of people go for CS, psych, bio/biotech(not nursing or teach). most of the current ones are looking for phd with experience, and everyones only looking for graduate degrees, because most employers rather not spend money/time to train a fresh graduate on low level work(very lazy), this is a catch22. there are jobs out there for undergrads, but its quite limited.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago*

    EU and countries (national funds or direct budgets) do have plans to invest in certain industries with perhaps more emphasis on manufacturing (which includes the war industry).
    The plans are there & the funding discussions too (eg how to get financial industry like pension funds to invest).

    The big questions surround the big investments, like chip & (atm*) battery production (it makes sense to have one or a few big investments, but not like 10s od high-end chips manufacturers).

    *battery manufacturing should at some point become an ezv standard, but not that soon

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    [–] 28 points 6 months ago (4 children)
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    The pathway out of the US is increasingly looking like a pathway into the Global South.

    Except we're in the transitional period between American and Chinese hegemonies, so there's not much demand for Western scientists just yet. Places looking to radically improve their standing in the new world order don't quite have the demand for foreign scientists that the West does/used to have just yet. While cream of the crop researchers will be able to do pretty well for themselves, I think we're about a generation away from a time when a "normal" above average Western scientist or engineer will be able to move to the (at this point former) Global South without taking a large hit to their quality of life.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    DONT FOrget the red scare, at least for some chinese scientist, fled the state and developed fission-fusion hydrogen bomb for the ccp.

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  • [–] 34 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    I know it may seem that way, but I think you have too much trust in EU. And I am living in the EU myself.

    EU definitely is also playing around with totalitarianism and fascistic tendencies. It's just they're able to get away with it under guise of "think of the children", which happens to actually be widely accepted argumentation in EU, as opposed to the US where you can literally befriend the most well known PDF file and still become the president.

    Also, we have lots of doofuses here that legitimately adore the mango man and his crew. I'm really not sure why that would be, but it clearly is (go to any legacy social media and see it for yourself).

    I think we're in a stage of global regression of the mind. People starting to believe totalitarianism is necessary. The only country I've heard that actually firmly stands against USA here in EU is Spain.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    The EU is not a single, compact entity. It’s some member states who are playing dangerously with far right forces. Which we must fight to defeat.

    But even the proto-fascist Melloni is (by now) far away from the shit Americans have to endure.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Can you elaborate on how you think the EU is "playing around with totalitarianism and fascistic tendencies".

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (1 child)

    I cannot believe this question is in good faith. Can you start with providing your own interpretation of what it might mean? This ensures you're not just a sea lion.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    I'll try and help. Examples of historic fascist/totalitarian regimes are Nazi Germany, Mussolini's Italy, Soviet Russia. Contemporary examples are North Korea, China, Russia, et al.

    In what way is the EU behaving in a way that is comparable to these without making the term completely meaningless?

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (20 children)

    Please Satan bring me a German tutor.

    I've tried the Goethe A1 Deutsch app, Anki, actual German grammar primers. Self-directed learning is one of my weaknesses. Ive taken many other steps towards finding work there but learning the language has me stymied.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    Why Germany? Other EU countries are more willing to communicate in English (professionally). Not France though. But definitely the Nordics.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    All the Germans I've met speak English. Granted it's all huge nerds in engineering but still, from what I gather, two or three languages isn't uncommon.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah but the country as a whole isn't all that willing to accomodate non-German speakers, at least compared to the above mentioned.

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  • [+] 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I get that, but the tenor of this thread is finding work.

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  • [+] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Sadly, it's true for some foreigners as long as they stay in Helsinki.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I was raised in a region that leaned heavily into it's German heritage. Americanized and bastardized yes, but for example my tiny high school only offered Spanish and German for foreign languages. I looked into citizenry by ancestry and found I didnt qualify because my most recent 'German' ancestor emigrated from Prussia in the mid-1800s. Said ancestor is buried in the cemetery of the village church I attended for kindergarten. Of course, none of that provides me any familiarity with modern Germany. I have a slight advantage with pronunciation and not much else.

    I investigated Sweden first actually, and I'd be happy to end up there. I think Scandinavia fits my political and societal opinions better than Germany (plus has WAY better metal 🤘). I have a BSc in engineering and was looking into Master's programs; University of Göthenburg has the faculty and research I'd like to pursue. The language barrier there was considerably more intimidating despite the reputation for accommodation you mentioned. Germany also has better resources for skilled foreigners looking for work.

    I want out of the States. Wherever I end up I intend to pursue fluency and integration. Germany just seemed like the simplest route to me other than joining Ukraine's foreign legion as an engineer.

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  • [+] 2 points 6 months ago (4 children)
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    As much as it fucking sucks and I hate it the increased military spending also increases my chance at finding a job. I'd leave my industry in a heartbeat for something else, but barring that I'd rather fight against Russia.

    I started working towards Germany mid last year, before conscription/travel restrictions had come up. AfD was definitely a source of trepidation. I'm not committed to Germany and in fact these developments have me second-guessing that route.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Im German and i can tell you: learning this language must be a bitch. Here is a example: We have Articles: "der, die, das" Usually, "der" is masculine, "die" is feminine and "das" is for objects Lets try to use that knowledge for "Bus" (same word as in english), should be "das Bus", right? It is a Object but it is called "der Bus" for some reason and that is not an exception. Every other Word is like "oops, we have rules for our articles but lets not follow them" and then some Germans get mad when you make mistakes like that

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    I speak 5 languages and have some basics in others but German, no.
    While I speak Flemish/Dutch (also a notoriously difficult, illogical and unnecessarily complicated language) which is Germanic and closely related I had zero affinity with it.
    I immediately said no, this isn't going to work.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Hello, I'm a linguist and have done some hours as a German tutor ^^

    Do you have any specific questions or is it a general problem?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    The general issue is my poor ability to self-direct my learning. External structure and occasional feedback helps a lot. Another obstacle lies within the learning resources; most focus on speaking German whereas I'd prefer to build a foundational understanding of German. Hence the grammar primer. Dunno if I have the luxury of time to pursue that anymore, however.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago*

    Sick of being pissed on by Trump

    Come join the Brian Drian

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    It's more that the brain drain to the US is now stopping.
    The very wealthy ivy league and other institutions have always attracted foreign intelligentia.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Oh good, time is still a flat circle.

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