▲ 25 ▼ CalyxOS progress report - our test build with Android 16 is here (calyxos.org) submitted 6 months ago by Sunshine@piefed.ca to c/privacy@programming.dev 6 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca [S] 7 points 6 months ago (5 children) Calyx will literally save lives from ICE. Keep your phone private from Trump 2.0. permalink fedilink source hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] LytiaNP@lemmy.today 0 points 6 months ago (4 children) I'm gonna sound like a shill, but your claim that "Calyx will literally save lives from ICE" is crazy. After abandoning their users by pausing all updates, and given that a third of their supported devices are Google Pixels, any one with a Google Pixel is significantly better off on GrapheneOS. ICE has shown their hand in what they're willing to waste tax payer money on, so one must assume they have access to Graykey / Cellebrite, and Calyx does very little to prevent physical attacks. Even on the digital side, Calyx does nothing to increase app security and the device sandbox, and given ICE's partnership with Paragon Solutions, it's only a matter of time before malware comes into play. Calyx is better than base AOSP (barely imo), but if you have a Pixel, there is a much better option that might actually save your life if it came to it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (3 children) https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/10/leaker-reveals-which-pixels-are-vulnerable-to-cellebrite-phone-hacking/ Literally proven that GrapheneOS is the best at preventing Cellebrite from accessing phones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Not everyone is in a position to run Graphene. Not everyone interacting with ICE (or other authoritarian government functionaries) has the same threat model. CalyxOS coming back is an unmitigated Good Thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LytiaNP@lemmy.today 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) In the event they abandon again, they're leaving even more users vulnerable. The only thing CalyxOS has over AOSP is the removal of the Google Play Store... in exchange for microG, which runs with elevated permissions as well. Ignoring that, as I said in my comment above the one you're replying to, a third of the supported devices are GrapheneOS compatible. The other two thirds are covered by LineageOS, which imo is just as secure as CalyxOS (probably even more secure than Calyx given they abandoned their community for about 10 months). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Marternus@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 5 months ago It is a strange moment to criticize Calyx for 'abandoning their community'. Actually they didn't abandon their community, they just paused (and announced it to change to another OS in the meantime) for personal restructuring. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LytiaNP@lemmy.today 0 points 6 months ago (4 children) I'm gonna sound like a shill, but your claim that "Calyx will literally save lives from ICE" is crazy. After abandoning their users by pausing all updates, and given that a third of their supported devices are Google Pixels, any one with a Google Pixel is significantly better off on GrapheneOS. ICE has shown their hand in what they're willing to waste tax payer money on, so one must assume they have access to Graykey / Cellebrite, and Calyx does very little to prevent physical attacks. Even on the digital side, Calyx does nothing to increase app security and the device sandbox, and given ICE's partnership with Paragon Solutions, it's only a matter of time before malware comes into play. Calyx is better than base AOSP (barely imo), but if you have a Pixel, there is a much better option that might actually save your life if it came to it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (3 children) https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/10/leaker-reveals-which-pixels-are-vulnerable-to-cellebrite-phone-hacking/ Literally proven that GrapheneOS is the best at preventing Cellebrite from accessing phones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Not everyone is in a position to run Graphene. Not everyone interacting with ICE (or other authoritarian government functionaries) has the same threat model. CalyxOS coming back is an unmitigated Good Thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LytiaNP@lemmy.today 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) In the event they abandon again, they're leaving even more users vulnerable. The only thing CalyxOS has over AOSP is the removal of the Google Play Store... in exchange for microG, which runs with elevated permissions as well. Ignoring that, as I said in my comment above the one you're replying to, a third of the supported devices are GrapheneOS compatible. The other two thirds are covered by LineageOS, which imo is just as secure as CalyxOS (probably even more secure than Calyx given they abandoned their community for about 10 months). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Marternus@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 5 months ago It is a strange moment to criticize Calyx for 'abandoning their community'. Actually they didn't abandon their community, they just paused (and announced it to change to another OS in the meantime) for personal restructuring. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (3 children) https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/10/leaker-reveals-which-pixels-are-vulnerable-to-cellebrite-phone-hacking/ Literally proven that GrapheneOS is the best at preventing Cellebrite from accessing phones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Not everyone is in a position to run Graphene. Not everyone interacting with ICE (or other authoritarian government functionaries) has the same threat model. CalyxOS coming back is an unmitigated Good Thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LytiaNP@lemmy.today 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) In the event they abandon again, they're leaving even more users vulnerable. The only thing CalyxOS has over AOSP is the removal of the Google Play Store... in exchange for microG, which runs with elevated permissions as well. Ignoring that, as I said in my comment above the one you're replying to, a third of the supported devices are GrapheneOS compatible. The other two thirds are covered by LineageOS, which imo is just as secure as CalyxOS (probably even more secure than Calyx given they abandoned their community for about 10 months). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Marternus@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 5 months ago It is a strange moment to criticize Calyx for 'abandoning their community'. Actually they didn't abandon their community, they just paused (and announced it to change to another OS in the meantime) for personal restructuring. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Not everyone is in a position to run Graphene. Not everyone interacting with ICE (or other authoritarian government functionaries) has the same threat model. CalyxOS coming back is an unmitigated Good Thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LytiaNP@lemmy.today 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) In the event they abandon again, they're leaving even more users vulnerable. The only thing CalyxOS has over AOSP is the removal of the Google Play Store... in exchange for microG, which runs with elevated permissions as well. Ignoring that, as I said in my comment above the one you're replying to, a third of the supported devices are GrapheneOS compatible. The other two thirds are covered by LineageOS, which imo is just as secure as CalyxOS (probably even more secure than Calyx given they abandoned their community for about 10 months). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Marternus@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 5 months ago It is a strange moment to criticize Calyx for 'abandoning their community'. Actually they didn't abandon their community, they just paused (and announced it to change to another OS in the meantime) for personal restructuring. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LytiaNP@lemmy.today 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) In the event they abandon again, they're leaving even more users vulnerable. The only thing CalyxOS has over AOSP is the removal of the Google Play Store... in exchange for microG, which runs with elevated permissions as well. Ignoring that, as I said in my comment above the one you're replying to, a third of the supported devices are GrapheneOS compatible. The other two thirds are covered by LineageOS, which imo is just as secure as CalyxOS (probably even more secure than Calyx given they abandoned their community for about 10 months). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Marternus@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 5 months ago It is a strange moment to criticize Calyx for 'abandoning their community'. Actually they didn't abandon their community, they just paused (and announced it to change to another OS in the meantime) for personal restructuring. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Marternus@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 5 months ago It is a strange moment to criticize Calyx for 'abandoning their community'. Actually they didn't abandon their community, they just paused (and announced it to change to another OS in the meantime) for personal restructuring. permalink fedilink source parent
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