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Which instances have the most ban-happy moderators? Analysis inside (piefed.social)
submitted 6 months ago by to c/fediverse@lemmy.world
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I did some analysis of the modlog and found this:

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Ok, bigger instances ban more often. Not surprising, because they have more communities and more users and more trouble. But hang on, dbzer0 isn't a very big instance. What happens if we do a ratio of bans vs number of users?

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Ok, so lemmy.ml, dbzer0 and pawb are issue an outsized amount of bans for the number of users they have... But surely the number of communities the instance hosts is going to mean they have to ban more? Bans are used to moderate communities, not just to shield their user-base from the outside. Let's look at the number of bans per community hosted:

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Seems like dbzer0 really loves to ban. Even more than the marxists and the furries! What is it about dbzer0 that makes them such prolific banners?

Raw-ish numbers and calculations are in this spreadsheet if anyone wants to make their own charts.

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[–] 33 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I'm not even a real instance anymore, how did I make the list 😆

But also, you should see the local numbers haha

lemmy=# select count(distinct other_person_id) from mod_ban where mod_person_id in (1, 2,288);
 count 
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  9792
(1 row)

I wonder what happens when I hit 10,000?

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    You are there because when you ban someone on an instance level, you also ban them on a community level, which inflates your numbers.

    DB0 does the same thing.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago

    I used to do that but once the backend added that feature I removed that step from the automod script. Basically it was to prevent the communities here from being unmoddable on remote instances.

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    • [–] 29 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    I have no idea about pawb.social, but it's almost certainly heavily bloated by bans for downvoting on AI communities on dbzer0 (and maybe some other communities).

    I also imagine places like lemmy.world are distorted due to them receiving the lions share of new communities, many of which end up abandoned - whereas smaller, more 'community' instances are stricter and will delete troll/spam/abandoned communities.

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    [–] 47 points 6 months ago

    dbzer0 literally has a community aimed at calling out power tripping mods, and instance admins regularly comment there to call out power tripping mods.

    I've never have been worried by being banned there by just normal posting.

    As they have already told you. This does not take into account the amount of harassment that some instances and communities have to endure.

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    [–] 46 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (10 children)

    its so funny how people complained about blahaj, the trans instance yet they dont ban very high at all, i suspect its alot of transphobic comments being directed towards the instance that are getting people banned.

    blahaj is up there likely due to signicant transphobia too.

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  • [–] 46 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    if you look at the modlog of every "blahaj is an authoritarian instance" user you will find they either keep misgendering people, talked over trans people and refused to be corrected or did things like denouncing neopronouns everytime

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago

    Yeah from memory most of our instance bans are gatekeeping and transphobia (and spam) which are the things we are the strictest on. We also notice that many transphobes are also bigoted or inflammatory in other ways as well, which makes sense as you wouldn't notice someone with bigoted views unless they were very willing to voice those views.

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  • [+] -6 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    I am banned from a bunch of blahaj because I said that they were as bad as ml once. Never made any transphobic comments (nor am I, for the record).

    I was not surprised to see them so high up.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I am banned from a bunch of blahaj because I said that they were as bad as ml once.

    No, you were banned from blahaj because you were arguing that DEI is bad, and that there is no such thing as stolen land, because "everyone does it"

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    First off, that was months ago now. Why would you spend your time doing that?

    Second, that's probably a terrible paraphrasing of what I actually said and without any of the context around it. I don't think DEI is bad. I do think everyone should have equal opportunities regardless of gender, sexuality, and race.

    Finally, I truly do believe there's no such thing as stolen land though, at least in the context of the discussion from what I recall. Your unnuanced summary, "because everyone does it" , has been shortened to further push your attempt at making me look bad.

    This is why I said blahaj is as bad as ml. Bandwagoning, echo chamber communities that don't want to hear an opinion that isn't fully in line with the Correct Opinion©™®. I don't even think my opinions were that controversial.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    You deserve it. Blahaj is not as terrible as ML

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    • [–] 15 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Here's an explanation of the pawb.social numbers:

    It's all one single guy

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago*

    draconic_neo's thing is to moderate like a huge amount different communities, all of which have zero activity, so they can spam people's admin log with libelous ban reasons. The amount of work they put into being petty is pretty astonishing.

    See my comment mod history. In under a minute, I received approximately 40 bans from a bunch of communities for 'transphobia'. I don't make transphobic comments (feel free to search my comment history) and I've never posted in any of these communities.

    If you take the time and look into the communities. You'll find that every single community is moderated by draconic_neo and has zero activity actual user activity. The communities only exist to spam people's mod log with bans/squat popular topic names.

    e: Another user in this very thread with the exact same ban spam behavior: https://lemmy.world/post/46317965/23518971

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    • [–] 14 points 6 months ago

    Is this permanent bans and/or temporary bans?

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