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[–] 33 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Eastland family members acknowledged their father, Dick Eastland, who also died in the flooding, had insisted their evacuation plan for flooding was to shelter in place.

What thought process leads one to the only possible evacuation plan that isn't an evacuation?

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    What thought process leads one to the only possible evacuation plan that isn’t an evacuation?

    Likely its that person thinking "This isn't a big deal and it will never happen but I can't say that so instead I'll give you a non-answer so I don't have to deal with it anymore."

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  • [–] 31 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    The thing that absolutely infuriates me about this is that [?one of the fire chiefs? ?the county emergency manager? Someone] had been advocating for like 20 years to get a flood warning system in place, but it would have cost about a million dollars - less than $20 per person in the county. Except the county residents repeatedly refused to pay for it. Then the county got a bunch of pandemic funds which they could've spent on emergency infrastructure upgrades, but they decided to spend it on other stuff. And now they want the state of Texas to pay for it. Pay for your own damn infrastructure, assholes, and stop killing your kids.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    my county (in MD and already very wealthy) was offered funds for warning devices, and jumped on it. The first responders and emergency planners LOVE LOVE LOVE these things. They can get up to another hour's notice of rising water levels and pre-stage equipment or close roads or start evacuating people.

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  • [–] 22 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Idk man, I figure that if I ran a camp that killed a bunch of kids due to flash flooding, I might move the fucking camp before reopening. Tornados, lightning, wind, etc are all pretty unpredictable. If a place has a massive flood once, it's pretty goddamn likely that it'll happen again.

    But hey, gotta make that bag, right?

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah but they already own that land, been playing the lottery for years on a bad flood plain while lobbying to get the buildings shown as not being on a flood plain. That's the American spirit isn't it?

    /s of course

    How they can think of reopening the same camp is ridiculous. They should be brought on charges as well as people who decided it was alright to designate the buildings as okay. So many safety issues were ignored, just let councillors have their phones for starters.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago
    [–] 9 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I was surprised they wanted to take on additional liability this summer when they are probably getting sued by dozens of families with dead kids already. Imagine being the kid of a family who'd be willing to send you to the dead kid camp. Christian love! Maybe they don't mind if you never come home.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    Gotta have income to pay the lawyers. Plus, if you read the articles last summer, what kept a lot of families still going there was momentum and tradition. If the operators could have kept the camp open this summer, momentum and tradition may have carried the camp forward and they may have recovered, but this is the death knell for the camp. Some families will drop their summer camp tradition entirely, and a bunch of other camps are going to snatch up the remaining campers and do their damnedest to make sure those kids have a fantastic time and want to return to their camp and not Camp Mystic.

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